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unseenbattle says

Hey guys, I need some help. I am needing to write some music the old fashioned way (note by note) and Logic’s notation options are not exactly as friendly as I’d like them to be.

What program is best for notating and then exporting to MIDI so I can import it back into Logic?

Thanks for the advice.

- John

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BCrutchfield Envato team says

Hey John,

Honestly whenever I write without it being directly into Logic, I usually just do it on pencil & paper. It is definitely faster if you have Sibelius or Finale macros, and your shortcuts down to a science, but there is just something that feels great about writing out an orchestration or score on score paper by hand. Once I finish I just take it and play the parts into Logic instrument by instrument until it is done.

If you’re using software I’d try Sibelius or Finale. Both have the export MIDI option, and you can easily save them as multiple MIDI track files so when you fly it into logic it breaks up the tracks for you and all you have to do is assign VI’s to them. Personally I use my collegiate copy of Finale, but that is only because I don’t want to spend the money to try out Sibelius (which I have heard is easier to use than Finale).

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unseenbattle says

Thanks bcrutchfield… I am trying out Finale SongWriter 2010 now and it feels very unnatural and clunky to me, sorta like Logic, so I’m downloading the demo to try out this Sibelius you mention right now.

Thanks for the suggestion.

And, YES , I totally agree on the pencil and paper thing, it’s just that I’d like to be able to export to MIDI and go after the final product more quickly than having to then take my ideas from paper and play them out. For some reason I can write accompaniment better than playing it in some scenarios. I don’t know why, call me crazy. ;)

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liambradbury says

I use sibelius whenever I need to produce a music score. you can export it as midi and import the midi file into logic. If you learn all the keyboard shortcuts for it then you can produce a high quality score very quickly!

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unseenbattle says

Thanks for all the advice guys. Not sure what I am going with yet, though pencil and paper seems to be the best for me at the moment. The mouse/trackpad just doesn’t work for me and notation yet.

We’ll see what happens.

Thanks again.
John

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BCrutchfield Envato team says

Yeah.. mouse and trackpad will always be terrible for music notation software. When you try out Finale or Sibelius you should read the instruction manual and figure out how to use every single shortcut. If you constantly have to mouse over to the toolbar to change note durations, or change tools, these programs will always be a migraine inducing nightmare to use. Shortcuts can make it tolerable, but I still avoid Finale like the plague unless I absolutely need to print out a score for live players.

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unseenbattle says
Yeah.. mouse and trackpad will always be terrible for music notation software. When you try out Finale or Sibelius you should read the instruction manual and figure out how to use every single shortcut. If you constantly have to mouse over to the toolbar to change note durations, or change tools, these programs will always be a migraine inducing nightmare to use. Shortcuts can make it tolerable, but I still avoid Finale like the plague unless I absolutely need to print out a score for live players.

Thanks bcrutchfield. after several hours of fooling with both Sibellius and Finale I found Sibelius more tolerable, but I think I am just going to stick to the old fashioned way. I love keyboard shortcuts, but there’s just something about musical notation and keyboard shortcuts that just doesn’t work for me.

Maybe someone will come out with a music notation app for the iPad that can export to MIDI . Any CodeCanyon people out there? hint hint…....... u could make millions! Anything’s possible right?

Thanks again guys for your input. :)

-John

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ryanalvarado says

I always hear about how Sibelius is a great app for tablature and notation: http://www.sibelius.com/home/index_flash.html

Finale is also popular for writing professional notation: http://www.finalemusic.com/

If I write music, I usually write in tablature. its faster and easier to wrap my head around. I love tablature! Here are some great tablature apps I use (both $60)... TablEdit (can do notation and tablature) – http://www.tabledit.com/ Guitar Pro 6 (a lot of people use this, but I don’t think its as fast or easy to use) – http://www.guitar-pro.com/en/index.php ^ Both export MIDI , which can import into Logic.

I know Logic’s scoring interface isn’t that great, but AudioTuts+ has a decent tutorial on how to get started with it: http://audio.tutsplus.com/tutorials/arrangement/how-to-create-a-song-sheet-in-logics-score-editor/ Maybe with some time and practice, you can get fast with the tablature /notation abilities in Logic. You wouldn’t need to buy another program to just write music.

Writing music out by hand is probably the most efficient option, but pen and paper doesn’t import into DAWs :(.

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unseenbattle says
I always hear about how Sibelius is a great app for tablature and notation: http://www.sibelius.com/home/index_flash.html

Finale is also popular for writing professional notation: http://www.finalemusic.com/

If I write music, I usually write in tablature. its faster and easier to wrap my head around. I love tablature! Here are some great tablature apps I use (both $60)... TablEdit (can do notation and tablature) – http://www.tabledit.com/ Guitar Pro 6 (a lot of people use this, but I don’t think its as fast or easy to use) – http://www.guitar-pro.com/en/index.php ^ Both export MIDI , which can import into Logic.

I know Logic’s scoring interface isn’t that great, but AudioTuts+ has a decent tutorial on how to get started with it: http://audio.tutsplus.com/tutorials/arrangement/how-to-create-a-song-sheet-in-logics-score-editor/ Maybe with some time and practice, you can get fast with the tablature /notation abilities in Logic. You wouldn’t need to buy another program to just write music.

Writing music out by hand is probably the most efficient option, but pen and paper doesn’t import into DAWs :(.

Thanks ryanalvarado … yea, I wish paper and pencil/pen would export to MIDI , but that’s what they made the iPad and developers for right? ;)

Thanks for the link on tutsplus about logic… I’ll check that out!

-John

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robGD says

The iPad would be perfect for storing tons of music and writing it on I bet. There’s going to be something that will come along unseen. There’s just no way that market will be ignored for long. Any dev’s with the the proper knowledge in earshot of this post should jump on it. :D

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