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greenshady says

Caldazar said he doesn’t want to try to walk on eggs in this public discourse. Frankly, no one should have to. It was not an insult to anyone.

I’ve seen several of you take what he has said completely and utterly out of context and assume he’s insulting you in some way. I understand that not all of you are native English speakers, and that’s okay. However, he hasn’t been trying to insult you.

No, he didn’t call you [software] “pirates” earlier either. He was merely likening what we all do to pirates and pointing out that we can do it legally.

It seems to me that several of you are cherry-picking specific phrases and bashing him for having a different opinion than you. It’s either that or you don’t understand what he’s saying. I only hope it’s the latter.

Please discuss the points at hand.

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VF says

I felt same as greenshady. Entering debate zone always has this kind of risks – I am happy no one targeted me as trolling! :D

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doru says

No, he didn’t call you [software] “pirates” earlier either. He was merely likening what we all do to pirates and pointing out that we can do it legally.

is this irony?

Because comparing someone with a pirate is like calling him a pirate.

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Australia says

@greenshady

Well said

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Typps says

@doru well said o/

@greenshady Nice attempt scrambling to do damage control. If caldazar wanted to clarify his situation, he had every opportunity to do so. Surely he is capable of this without your assistance!

That said, I got nothing against anybody here. It’s only a discussion and personally I found it constructive. I agree that there is no point in beating a dead horse as it appears all the good arguments are exhausted. I for one, know how I’m going to respond in the survey, which is a relief ^^

@caldazar Got nothing against you. Peace!

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Dream-Theme says

Just a reminder. Do you guys remember marketplace selling all-gpl themes? One that now has “Will be back soon” landing page… for more than half a year or more?

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greenshady says


No, he didn’t call you [software] “pirates” earlier either. He was merely likening what we all do to pirates and pointing out that we can do it legally.

is this irony?

Because comparing someone with a pirate is like calling him a pirate.

No, there’s a difference. I’m more than happy to discuss the nuances of the English language with you off topic. I have a B.A. in English if you need my credentials.


@greenshady Nice attempt scrambling to do damage control. If caldazar wanted to clarify his situation, he had every opportunity to do so. Surely he is capable of this without your assistance!

He didn’t have a reason to clarify anything. It’s not his fault that other people were taking his words out of context.

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Dream-Theme says



No, he didn’t call you [software] “pirates” earlier either. He was merely likening what we all do to pirates and pointing out that we can do it legally.

is this irony?

Because comparing someone with a pirate is like calling him a pirate.

No, there’s a difference. I’m more than happy to discuss the nuances of the English language with you off topic. I have a B.A. in English if you need my credentials.


@greenshady Nice attempt scrambling to do damage control. If caldazar wanted to clarify his situation, he had every opportunity to do so. Surely he is capable of this without your assistance!
He didn’t have a reason to clarify anything. It’s not his fault that other people were taking his words out of context.

Really? Than what is this:

Well, “referrals = giving back” is pretty much the pirate’s top argument. While this is true and should be part of a venture’s strategic considerations, saying that you’d owe pirates anything, be it an explanation for how you use your own software, would be quite bold methinks.

And this:

Technically you’re doing exactly the same as pirates, except it’s explicitly allowed. Why? Because WordPress gave you the permission as a gift out of the goodness of their hearts, before Envato even existed.

Please feel free to waste a bit more of your time and reveal us the sacral meaning of it;)

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greenshady says




No, he didn’t call you [software] “pirates” earlier either. He was merely likening what we all do to pirates and pointing out that we can do it legally.

is this irony?

Because comparing someone with a pirate is like calling him a pirate.

No, there’s a difference. I’m more than happy to discuss the nuances of the English language with you off topic. I have a B.A. in English if you need my credentials.


@greenshady Nice attempt scrambling to do damage control. If caldazar wanted to clarify his situation, he had every opportunity to do so. Surely he is capable of this without your assistance!
He didn’t have a reason to clarify anything. It’s not his fault that other people were taking his words out of context.

Really? Than what is this:

Well, “referrals = giving back” is pretty much the pirate’s top argument. While this is true and should be part of a venture’s strategic considerations, saying that you’d owe pirates anything, be it an explanation for how you use your own software, would be quite bold methinks.

And this:

Technically you’re doing exactly the same as pirates, except it’s explicitly allowed. Why? Because WordPress gave you the permission as a gift out of the goodness of their hearts, before Envato even existed.

Please feel free to waste a bit more of your time and reveal us the sacral meaning of it;)

As I wrote earlier, I’ll be more than happy to discuss the English language in another topic. It’s obvious that some of you either don’t grasp what was written or want to be argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.

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sevenspark Volunteer moderator says

Yes, let’s please keep this on topic and civil, everyone. Thanks!

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