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mitdralla says

^^ Kudos to his reply – great post.

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VF says

Collis made another post http://wpdaily.co/theme-clarity/ much respect for that man.

Great move and well deserved to ask for clarity too.

I guess, still split license will be the obvious preference for the authors who contributes creativity as major part.

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Typps says

Collis made another post http://wpdaily.co/theme-clarity/ much respect for that man.
Great post, it’s not definitive as there will be a survey, but this part pretty much caught my attention:
The GPL licensing questions and results will relate not just to WordPress themes, but also to the multiple other GPL-based CMSes we support

I hope the GPL option does not become available only for a determined number of high profile GPL based products.

I’m also currently extending an existing system that is GPL based, which I’d like to start selling here and being able to GPL license would be nice. Otherwise, I’d have to package code separately, making it clear what is GPL licensed and what not with an alternate download for the GPL parts, it’s painful.

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graphic4444 says

Collis made another post http://wpdaily.co/theme-clarity/ much respect for that man.

thx for the link, agree a great post by Collis. You’re asking the right questions. Especially re commercial interests of who’s asking for what. I think whatever can be done to protect the IP rights of authors and commercial viability of envato/TF is a smart idea.

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PixelBuffet says

Smart move from Collis, an excellent response. :)

It will be interesting to see how this all pans out if authors do being switching to 100% GPL…

Anyone switching to 100% GPL will presumably lose the option of the extended license, right?

Also, if a CodeCanyon author goes 100% GPL, then TF theme authors could buy their plugin / slider / whatever and then bundle it into their theme. Correct?

Assuming that Envato don’t decide to prevent the above, then other CMS developers could also buy a WP theme and port it over to another platform and sell it here too – as the design is now GPL. Right?

In fact, how much would someone need to modify a theme / plugin before Envato would allow them to sell their ‘new’ version on the marketplaces?

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Typps says

In fact, how much would someone need to modify a theme / plugin before Envato would allow them to sell their ‘new’ version on the marketplaces?

I hope that doesn’t become a possibility, i.e. if the proposed plugin/theme is not part of a larger app that does something quite different than the proposed material, then I’m expecting for it not to be accepted, otherwise the marketplace becomes pointless.

In short, why should an author want to post an item here as GPL, if the next person can just pick it up and re-propose it with slight variations ? You basically end up competing against yourself otherwise :P

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PixelBuffet says

I hope that doesn’t become a possibility, i.e. if the proposed plugin/theme is not part of a larger app that does something quite different than the proposed material, then I’m expecting for it not to be accepted, otherwise the marketplace becomes pointless.
I think that is probably the key line that Envato would need to draw. If authors change their items to be 100% GPL, you are then fine to purchase and include them in your own work so long as the primary aim of your work differs from theirs.

That would prevent people from abusing GPL to copy / profit from each others work, and prevent you from competing with your own work.

If we all went GPL (which I can’t see happening, to be honest), then it would be a nightmare for the reviewers to police…!

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VF says

I thought with GPL, one can upload the exact same (purchased) files into same marketplace (again with GPL as only license) – internal polices of marketplace can’t restrict! Correct me if I am wrong.

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organicbee says

I thought with GPL, one can upload the exact same files into same marketplace – internal polices of marketplace can’t restrict! Correct me if I am wrong.

internal policies can do what they want as it has nothing to do with licensing, Envato could have a policy where no bright lime green items are allowed(or a better example pornographic etc).

Ive seen items that were GPL from other site get submitted here and taken down because they were a copy, just because something is GPL’d doesnt mean markets/authors/community have to support the d-bags that try profiting on others hard work

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VF says

^ But what if reviewer mistakenly approved? The original author can’t send DMCA – so just need to request Envato to pull down the item, right?

Btw, I afraid if someone purchases a GPL and complains Envato for not allowing to upload the same file with modifications – and claims for refund + moans for wasted work. I even had such complaint once from a buyer for an extended license sale! :D

Btw 2, in case internal policy restricts re-uploading same file by buyer, lets hope someone again wont call this as violating spirit of GPL :P

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