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Vocals in other languages

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Mihai_Sorohan says

Hi there
For some time I bought the Soundiron Kontakt library “Requiem Light” (I was drooling on it since Tonehammer’s days) and I use it in my music but something is bothering me…
The AJ rules specify that tracks with voice should use only English language.
As I realize that is hard to get reviewers knowing all the languages, so it’s hard to know if vulgar/ hateful/ offensive language is (ab)used in a track, still, how about those libraries?

Some of them use Latin (like Requiem Light, some Slavonic and Latin (like Mars or Venus), some use middle Eastern languages (like most of Sonokinetic ethnic libraries or Goidelic languages: Scots Gaelic, Irish, and Manx like 8dio forgotten voices barbary).
For now I keep on other places my other tracks using voices, but maybe we can change a little bit the rules?
What is the opinion of other authors? or Envato officials?

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garethcoker says

I think it depends on the context of the music. I have plenty of tracks in my portfolio that use choral vocals such as Requiem, and ethnic vocals too.

If they are the centerpiece of your track (like a pop song) then I don’t think it will pass the review, but if it is representative of the genre (i.e. ethnic vocals blended into the score is a characteristic of a lot of ‘epic’ film music) – then it will be fine.

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Sonicbyte says

Maybe envato should allow some major languages like Spanish, french, etc ….

This is a huge community and I bet some of the reviewers speaks other languages and all of us could control if a song is offensive

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garethcoker says

Maybe envato should allow some major languages like Spanish, french, etc …. This is a huge community and I bet some of the reviewers speaks other languages and all of us could control if a song is offensive

Very good point.

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ZtarrZound says

I dont think you have to worry about using choral libs in your music. I think the envato policy is geared towards actual lyrical content in the make-up of a song.

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travengraven says

maybe it can be acceptable for envato to organize a “language review group” with trusted authors from different countries/languages. But it always comes with risks.

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TortoiseTree says

I forgot where I read this, but I know that one of the main reasons they don’t allow non-english songs is around the no abusive or profane subject matter or language is to be used on the website rule. Since there are only so many reviewers and whether they speak the languages or not is also an issue. Furthermore it would delay the process of reviewing a lot too… imagine your song is in German and only one reviewer speaks German, if he didn’t get the song to review another reviewer would have to pass it on to him. If a lot of songs started to appear in German then he’d have more work than the rest…

I mean look at it however you see it there are so many logistical nightmares in doing so I think AudioJungle kept it to english (again not an unfair decision given that Envato is Australian) to make things easier for everyone.

Another sticky issue is how do we decide what is and what isn’t a major language? Where do we draw the line 100 million speakers? 200 million?

It’s all awfully complicated…

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Mihai_Sorohan says

It’s all awfully complicated…
I agree, but on the other hand, what is simple and easy in life?

Maybe Envato should allow some major languages or just update the rules regarding those vocal libraries. After all, just checking up to 10 libraries might take less time than checking all the tracks in a certain language, and then all authors should specify the library used in a track.
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ADG3studios moderator says

I think it depends on the context of the music. I have plenty of tracks in my portfolio that use choral vocals such as Requiem, and ethnic vocals too. If they are the centerpiece of your track (like a pop song) then I don’t think it will pass the review, but if it is representative of the genre (i.e. ethnic vocals blended into the score is a characteristic of a lot of ‘epic’ film music) – then it will be fine.

That’s how it works now, yes. Depends on the context. Latin choirs in an epic are usually allowed. African chants used as accessories to a track can also be approved. Full songs with lyrics in other languages are not approved, per the policies we have to follow. :)

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Mihai_Sorohan says

Latin choirs in an epic are usually allowed. African chants used as accessories to a track can also be approved.
Thanks for the info, good news then.

Full songs with lyrics in other languages are not approved, per the policies we have to follow. :)
Policies are made usually to help people, so, do you think those can be changed a bit ? who we need to persuade ?
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