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duotive
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So.. Vimeo allows for embedding, YouTube allows for embedding, but there was a discrepancy on whether you’re allowed to embed a video within a template? That’s a ridiculous notion to begin with and I honestly don’t feel there should even be a debate regarding it! If Vimeo doesn’t want their uploads/video player being promoted, so be it then; we’ll just use YouTube. Just my 2-cents…

YouTube player ruines the look of a website. It’s the ugliest player i have ever seen.

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crozer
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So.. Vimeo allows for embedding, YouTube allows for embedding, but there was a discrepancy on whether you’re allowed to embed a video within a template? That’s a ridiculous notion to begin with and I honestly don’t feel there should even be a debate regarding it! If Vimeo doesn’t want their uploads/video player being promoted, so be it then; we’ll just use YouTube. Just my 2-cents…

Well then, use YouTube. Those who actually appreciate quality videos, a creative and intelligent community, will go with Vimeo.

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beetlesales
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I’m sorry for the misconception guy’s. What I’m trying to say is Vimeo acts as if they don’t want people utilizing their videos within a commercial template. That seems a little fishy from my end, as it only makes sense to allow for such usage…

Here’s the message from Vimeo..

“Hi Jason, Thanks for contacting us and for your enthusiasm with Vimeo! In this particular case, since you’re demonstrating that your themes allow the embedding of videos from Vimeo, we see no problem with including an example video embed with your sample themes. We appreciate you asking us about this usage first. Now go forth and conquer.”

In this particular case sounds as if there would be an issue if their videos were used in another circumstance. Just doesn’t make sense, as there’s an “EMBED” option available to anyone, for any project.

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CodingJack
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^ you have to read the full message I sent them which includes a link to this blog post:

http://notes.envato.com/authors/embedding-videos-in-item-previews/

Read the “Vimeo” part and it should help put things in better context.

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beetlesales
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^ you have to read the full message I sent them which includes a link to this blog post: http://notes.envato.com/authors/embedding-videos-in-item-previews/ Read the “Vimeo” part and it should help put things in better context.

Thanks for the link CodingJack. After reading the Vimeo section of that blog post, I can clearly see there would be an issue with the usage of Vimeo videos within the actual commercial templates. However, considering a live preview is a “personal” resource only used to showcase a commercial template, I don’t see it being a problem :)

After all, you aren’t selling the Vimeo video with the commercial template, right? The live previews are only there to show a user the “capabilities” of the template in question.

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CodingJack
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^ I don’t necessarily disagree. But regardless of Vimeo’s intentions, their verbiage is pretty clear:

“your own personal, non-commercial purposes”

Envato made the right decision in suggesting we don’t use Vimeo based on that information. But because I think our situation is a bit unique I decided to write them.

For example, we aren’t placing Vimeo Video in some product’s television ad. Instead, we’re providing shortcuts to help connect Vimeo’s service with webmasters of all skill levels. So I think there’s a big difference between the two and that’s probably why Vimeo responded with the green light :)

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segen
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This is good news, thanks!

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navigator
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Everything is clear now with Vimeo. Thanks CJ for sharing this :)

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CodingJack
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Maybe we’ll get an updated Vimeo recommendation from staff on Envato Notes. But until then I switched out my Vimeo previews with videos I personally authored and will probably stick to that practice for the time being. Seems like the safest route based on all the current info.

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Stammi
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Thanks for clearing this up! :)

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