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srwmusic says

Hi, Hope some of you guys might be able to offer some advice!

I am quite new to Audiojungle, but not new to production music etc. since recently getting up momentum with uploads, I was enjoying a slow but steady rhythm of sales – the pattern was quite steady and hence I just recently withdrew my first $130 :-), however, since doing this, my sales have dropped to absolute zero! not a single one!! Now, I know that these things take time and effort, and I am in this for the longhaul as I am with everything else, BUT my question is this – I haven’t changed how i promote my work or anything else so how come my sales should suddenly halt? I know and dont expect the slightly weaker tracks to do much as they are genre specific, but the contemp ones should be carrying on as before. They were selling great a week and a half ago but since applying to withdraw they immediately stopped – zoinks!

I am trying to research some of the best ways to push my AJ tracks, and also keep in mind that some of the top ten tracks are always in the weekly best sellers list in the same order with huge sales per week, and i think wow – so who are all these buyers and how do I get myself to those ears! Any ideas or suggestions please?? Cheers, Si

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TJMusic says

Check the number of visits on your item pages. The sales are proportional to visits, so do the visits also dropped?

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tacoMusic says

Hi srwmusic,

It’s a phenomenon that I’ve come up against as well – drops in sales really seem sporadic and unpredictable. The introduction of the similar items (from other authors) on your page that AJ introduced last month helped initially, but then I guess they tweaked their algorithm and sales stopped straight away after picking up nicely.

The way AJ works with regard to keeping older tracks selling has been discussed in another thread a lot. The similar items feature seemed like a step in the right direction, but from my experience it’s not helping anymore, so either that’s because it’s the end of Summer or the algorithm changed making it less useful.

The longer term hope is that the much awaited advanced search will help older tracks thrive a bit more, but of things are still too difficult to find when that comes out, then the best sellers will continue to be the first choice for most people as I expect no one will waste time tryin to find other people’s tracks if they’re on a time limit / lack patience (which is most people).

Anyway, to answer your question, it’s very weird your sales have dropped suddenly after a withdrawal (unless there’s some ‘penalty’ involved in withdrawals from AJ accounts! Conspiracy theory here we come). What are you doing to promote your work outside of AJ? I assume you’ve gone the Twitter, FaceBook etc route and have a website set up?

Do you cold call / email companies you think may be interested? My biggest dilemma is that it takes loads of time to market my tracks while also making new ones. Some people are lucky and do nothing to market their work (or write in such a way that it markets itself well as it hits demand spot on), but I wouldn’t rely on AJ’s system to keep you selling consistently as uploaded tracks tend to archive and disappear with the current set up (unlike other libraries).

Have you tried Google Ads? I’ve heard of some positive results from that once you identify some strong keywords…

Taco

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srwmusic says

Cheers guys, some great advice here., and Taco, i love the insight as to why and how. I think you have hit the mark regarding marketing/plugging “outside AJ” – I am now looking into finding new and interesting ways to attract/target new potential interests. I will keep the forum posted (literally!) regarding my progress.

cheers guys, I will be back with my ideas soon!

Si

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SERFmusic says

Hi srwmusic,

It’s a phenomenon that I’ve come up against as well – drops in sales really seem sporadic and unpredictable. The introduction of the similar items (from other authors) on your page that AJ introduced last month helped initially, but then I guess they tweaked their algorithm and sales stopped straight away after picking up nicely.

The way AJ works with regard to keeping older tracks selling has been discussed in another thread a lot. The similar items feature seemed like a step in the right direction, but from my experience it’s not helping anymore, so either that’s because it’s the end of Summer or the algorithm changed making it less useful.

The longer term hope is that the much awaited advanced search will help older tracks thrive a bit more, but of things are still too difficult to find when that comes out, then the best sellers will continue to be the first choice for most people as I expect no one will waste time tryin to find other people’s tracks if they’re on a time limit / lack patience (which is most people).

Anyway, to answer your question, it’s very weird your sales have dropped suddenly after a withdrawal (unless there’s some ‘penalty’ involved in withdrawals from AJ accounts! Conspiracy theory here we come). What are you doing to promote your work outside of AJ? I assume you’ve gone the Twitter, FaceBook etc route and have a website set up?

Do you cold call / email companies you think may be interested? My biggest dilemma is that it takes loads of time to market my tracks while also making new ones. Some people are lucky and do nothing to market their work (or write in such a way that it markets itself well as it hits demand spot on), but I wouldn’t rely on AJ’s system to keep you selling consistently as uploaded tracks tend to archive and disappear with the current set up (unlike other libraries).

Have you tried Google Ads? I’ve heard of some positive results from that once you identify some strong keywords…

Taco

I thought I was the only that had a major drop in sales after the new “similar items” feature was introduced! I’m in no way complaining by the way :) But my page visits have dropped as well as my consistency of sales from my first two months on AJ.

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Diesel_J says

1) I was never good at math 2) I love this site:

Now having said this, I’m not crazy about the affiliate program. Yea, I know…. costs money to run this operation.

Recently I saw someone referred over 1000 people to this site. Rough calculations based on sales of a 14$ file.

1000 referrals x 4.2 (30%)= 4200$ goes to hard working author 1000 sales x 9.8(70%) = 9800$ goes to AJ

Assuming most referrals purchase 10 audio files yearly:

10 000 sales x 7$(50% avg) = 70 000 to aj

I’m no statistician and this doesn’t take into account referrals sent to other higher priced items eg themes etc… Also, I’m sure most people might earn more if the initial cash deposit from said referrals is a larger sum but I would think most people “try” before they buy and opt for a more conservative cash deposit.

Anyways, 4200$/70000$ split for author/aj

I should stop now…

Too many Breaking Bad episodes will do that to ya’

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srwmusic says

Ha ha! Totally agree Diesel_J :-) I am also always conscious of the fact that AJ ask that we as authors do our best to promote ourselves. If we do all the legwork ourselves to try and generate sales (for which AJ will take their hefty cut) then what exactly “pushing” has AJ done ? I could understand a lot better if AJ hosted our work and pushed it all around on our behalf – chased the sales etc – in that case taking the cut seems a fair and fore-gone conclusion. But to now discover that it is really ourselves who have to do all the promoting and pushing, all the digging and cold-calling in as many various media hubs and groups around the planet as we can find, to try and win a sale to then give 50% to our host all of a sudden seems odd. in a nutshell… I make a pie, I then have to go and find someone to sell it to. I find someone who will buy it – they do so, but give the money to AJ, who then gives me 50 percent because they allow me to make exclusive pies under their banner….there are some simple answers here aren’t there? Still, I am usually fairly good at sniffing out a good work-around or making a system work better for me, so I will see what transpires in the coming months. Whilst this is happening, I will ofcourse keep writing and producing and uploading, and doing the very best I can to promote and sell to keep AJ in the green! :-)

If you were fortunate enough to get into that high-end top twenty or so songs, would you then also be “made” by easily having constant repeat sales week-in and week-out? I think so as AJ seem to be content to invest the focus only at the snapshot of the top-end and also seem quite content to perpetuate those names and titles so that popularity grows and grows around those names and titles. I think that by doing things this way, AJ are choking their own service – have strict quality control and allow only high-standard audio from talented authors, and then stifle them all by putting the “regulars at the front of the queue!

but hey, thats just me!!! lol :-)

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SoundFix says

I’ve only just joined about 2 weeks ago but I noticed this as my newest track didn’t sell at all yet, whereas the others did almost straight away. Glad it’s not just me :)

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johnny625 says

I have had periods when there were little, to no sales at all, and yes I have thought that maybe some conspiracy is at play. But in reality it is all about how you promote your profile and your work. Luck also plays a role. I mean there are so many similar items on AJ. Whether your item will be bought is in part dependent on luck too. :)

So basically, I am sure that your sales will go up, srwmusic.

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srwmusic says

Yeah, i an sure they will too Johnny625 – don’t get me wrong, i love this site, and as long as AJ keeps tweaking things so that everyone is on an even playing field then it will always be a good place! You are right about promotion though…. Although i still think that AJ needs to do more promotion and pushing, it still pays for us all to think outside the box and get clever in the way we promote and expose ourselves (that came out wrong!) :)

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