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Celestial-Sound says

First I was “wow, good tracks, so well played and recorded, but then I was like so uncool”. I guess reviewers should ask themselves when hear a good brass band with extremely good payers playing fast unison, “how actually a AJ producer would get 20 people in his bedroom studio to play this?” and “If he has budget for this, why is he not famous and rich already?”.
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Boldtrax says

Art-of-sound, I actually had a discussion with Big Fish Audio about this topic using their libraries for my TV work (which in the end ends up in a “library” as well) – and they offer a “special” license on request, that covers this usage specifically . From that discussion I also know that their license does not cover the use of their content in RF marketplaces, especially to avoid what is happening above. These are tools that are meant to get things done fast, to inspire, to create something new of it. Apart from the fact that you’re right, someone should not be called thieve (assuming he / she is a legal owner of that libs) I do think taking Loops A, B, C, and D from contruction Kit 1, pulling it together with the purpose of reselling it is close to theft imho.

Just my 2c

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Mihai_Sorohan says

It’s also a pride issue. How can you call yourself a musician if you just toss around some loops?
Put a premade loop for bass, put another loop made by someone else as drums, harmony and melody and suddenly you call that “my music”...

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Art-of-Sound says

I asked Big Fish twice whether the samples can be used for stock audio compositions, 10 days passed, still no answer. What a customer service! Anyway, solodova was right regarding the Big Band Mania track. It’s a demo track taken from BF free samples pack and uploaded as is to AJ. Here’s a screenshot comparing the demo track and the one that is sold on AJ:

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Allegro120 says

If you have paid to use the samples, you are within your rights to use them. Although ethics should only be used as a backing track, you should add more tracks. So the issue is of his own and would not resemble that of other authors. Do not forget that apart from composers, we are also producers. We all use Stylus Remix or drum samples. But you have to know how to use a certain ethic.

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big-fish-audio says

Hi Audiojungle Authors,

We thought we would address this topic ourselves here.

First let me start by saying sorry to Art-of-Sound that you haven’t got a reply from your question as of yet. We do try to answer all incoming customer service contacts quickly and efficiently. Did you use our online contact section? Let me know if there is anything you’d like to know specifically.

On to our license agreement issue. For our products that we consider “Construction Kit” products, we only restrict people using them in any “Music Libraries” unless they request from us a “special use license” which further defines how they can and can’t use the construction kit when working on a music library track. We simply don’t want people using the demo mix or recreating the demo mix for music libraries as then you would have a lot of the same track all over the market. Essentially, we own that song and we don’t want people simply reissuing the same song to be sold as is. Construction Kits can be a great tool for inspiration, finding various loops that work perfectly together, adding a vocal part on top of it, or using it as a great starting point for a completely new composition all together. Here is what we provide people when they request a special use license:

Big Fish Audio grants a special use license for the use of the above mentioned products in the creation of a music library with the following restrictions.  You can not use the “Demo” track also known as the construction kit mix.  Further you can not recreate the demo mix. 

Also, just so people know, any product that is not in “construction kit” layout doesn’t have any music library restrictions anyway. Since they aren’t laid out in a way that has premade song mixes there really can’t be any misuse when it pertains to music library usage. Also, as we understand it Audiojungle has it’s own terms which restricts overuse of sample library material which further defines how someone could use our construction kit libraries on audiojungle.

We think it’s great anytime someone uses our content for an album, a music library, a film score, or an audiojungle track! we just want to make sure people are clear about how they can be used in different situations. Let us know your thoughts and we’d be happy to answer any questions you have. Have a great one!

Sincerely, The Big Fish Audio support team

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Art-of-Sound says

Great to hear from you here! Yes, I used your online contact form.

In the argument that took place in this thread a user claimed that “you are not allowed to use these construction kits for library music”., while to the best of my understanding, the line ” The license does not allow you to include the samples… in any music library or sample library product.” refers to sound banks for DAWs (Kontakt library, for instance), not a stock audio site.

So my question is: Can I use The Big Fish loops in musical compositions destined for sale on stock audio sites?

Thanks!

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big-fish-audio says

Our license agreements refer to how you can use our products in both “sample libraries” and “music libraries”

Sample Libraries refers to any other loop library, kontakt instrument, construction kit library etc.. Basically you can’t use the content of our sample libraries to make more sample libraries.

Music Libraries refer to both royalty based music libraries (megatrax, killer tracks, etc..) or any royalty free music libraries (audiojungle, gettyimages etc…)

Many of our libraries don’t have any restrictions in their use in a “music library” while some of our construction kit products do have a restriction against using them in “music libraries” unless you request a “special use license” (which is free to our customers). Once you receive a “special use license” from us the only music library restriction is that you can’t use our demo mixes or simply recreate the demo mixes using the loops, but all other uses in stock sites like audio jungle would be permitted. Of course, Audiojungle does have some restrictions of their own in how you can use loop libraries but you’d have to refer to their guidelines for that.

Hope this helps! Have a good one!

P.S. Art-Of-Sound if for whatever reason you weren’t able to get through to our support you can PM our audiojungle account on here and we can work out anything you need that way as well as investigate what happened to your contact with us through our site.

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Art-of-Sound says

Thank you for a very clear and comprehensive answer!

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