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Demorfoza says

Hi everyone :) For the last couple of days I’m trying to learn something about making project ready to print. I read couple of threads here on forum (especially those helpful posts by aRtlessX), but still have many questions. I know about resolution, colour mode, file dimensions (including bleed an slug areas), guides and so on. I have more sophisticated (I think) questions. Let’s assume I’m designing catalogue/brochure to put it here on GraphicRiver:

- Do any objects have to be printed straight on a paper? (I mean two layers – background and object – do the background have to have an emtpy “hole” with any object put inside to print correctly).

- What about profile color – I saw many of you use Fogra. Is it necessary to include specific profile?

- Is imposition made by a printer?

That’s it for now. :)

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Motionreactor says

I don’t understand your first question.

The standard CMYK profile setup in all Adobe products is typically good for printers worldwide.

Imposition is almost always the printers business. I don’t think the files here need to be configured to account for varying setups, because this simply isn’t practical.

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aRtlessX says

Do any objects have to be printed straight on a paper? (I mean two layers – background and object – do the background have to have an emtpy “hole” with any object put inside to print correctly).
Hi Demorfoza, I guess it’s 100% safe to say that whoever is gonna buy print templates is gonna eventually print them on paper, BUT you’re probably confused by my other posts that you mentioned.

That was a discussion on using a fifth color (gold in that discussion’s case) along with the standard 4 (C-M-Y-K), and I was explaining how it should be represented for technical reasons either by an extra pantone (illustrator case) or represented as a repeat of one of the 4 basic colors in a separate layer in PS case, since PS doesn’t allow the use of pantone. This 5th color is gonna either be printed by the foil blocking printing technic or by a pantone metallic gold color ink, and for the reasons I explained in that thread, depending on which technic we choose, there is the case where there needs to be left a ‘hole’ wherever that 5th color is gonna fall on paper. But enough with this, it’s all in the other thread lol

Now, unless you have the intention to make a template which is gonna use a fifth color when it will go in the printing process, forget all of the above for regular templates.

We make our print templates in CMYK color mode, whether it’s in PS, ID or AI, as layered as possible is the preferred option (and smart choice – buyers like it that way so they can have a fully flexible and customizable template), and as far as colors/objects leaving a ‘hole’ to the background, you don’t have to worry about that, b/c all applications (unless someone messed with the default settings) have as a default setting for colors/objects (either layered or flattened) to leave that ‘hole’ wherever it is needed when the color separating/prepress process is gonna take place in order to get the job separated on film for the printer.

So for ‘regular’ (no extra colors etc) print templates, just make your template in CMYK , everything in 300 dpi resolution, layered, take care all about bleeds/etc and you’re done. ;)

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Demorfoza says

I don’t understand your first question.

The standard CMYK profile setup in all Adobe products is typically good for printers worldwide.

Imposition is almost always the printers business. I don’t think the files here need to be configured to account for varying setups, because this simply isn’t practical.

Thank you :)


So for ‘regular’ (no extra colors etc) print templates, just make your template in CMYK , everything in 300 dpi resolution, layered, take care all about bleeds/etc and you’re done. ;)

My first question wasn’t related in any way to your posts. But I think you answered me at the end of your reply anyway :) Thank you too!

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Demorfoza says

Ok, I decided to illustrate my first question. Here’s the example – http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5470/case1c.jpg – which variant should I consider while making a project to have an effect with an object printed on background?

And here comes another question. If I want to have such effect on printed material – http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/1160/case2.jpg – will the above colours interfere with each other when printed with 100% cover, or should I make them a bit transparent to maintain such effect?

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dany_j says

Basicly printer will print what you see

VAR 1 – you can make if you set an object to overprint but you will not have that blue color, the black background will effect blue color in offset printing

VAR 2 – is automatic, that is what printer do automatically so you dont need to make a hole by your self. athough there are more complex isues of this topic.

Your third effect is what you get if you make object above transparent

Overprint is usualy used with text on light background in offset printing due to the diferent color pass to avoid undesirable effect if printer is not acurate. But its recommended anyway

some article http://www.creativepro.com/article/acrobat-how-to-using-overprint-preview-for-soft-proofing

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Demorfoza says

Thank you dany_j :)

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