GravityDept said
@ xstortionist: Visual appearance is not the issue. He skinned Acumen, which is deliberately unstyled for the purpose of rapid development of custom designs for single-use websites. Attempting to resell it violates the Envato’s usage license. This is illegal.xstortionist said
Also, just skimmed through the source code, I don’t see anything that looks stolen.I wrote the source code. I think I’m qualified to recognize what is / is not stolen. Everything from application structure to code style is stolen from Acumen. Literally hundreds of hours of work. He even kept my custom-formatted PHP DocBlocks intact using find/replace to shove his name in. Some image assets are re-used pixel-for-pixel.
@ pau1winslow: Please explain how I could learn a thing or two. Acumen is the top selling Magento theme, and nearly outsells the closest competitor 2:1. Isn’t it more likely the brand new user with no sales and no purchases simply stole the top selling item? Really.
I believe you are mistaken, if you look at the author, you’ll see that he doesn’t have a badge showing that he’s purchased an item. So if he hasn’t purchased your product, how could he steal your PHP source code? I don’t understand that concept. I looked at the source again, and the html / css structure isn’t the same as yours as well. You haven’t presented any evidence that he stole your theme, all I hear from you is speculation.
xstortionist said
GravityDept saidI believe you are mistaken, if you look at the author, you’ll see that he doesn’t have a badge showing that he’s purchased an item. So if he hasn’t purchased your product, how could he steal your PHP source code? I don’t understand that concept. I looked at the source again, and the html / css structure isn’t the same as yours as well. You haven’t presented any evidence that he stole your theme, all I hear from you is speculation.
@ xstortionist: Visual appearance is not the issue. He skinned Acumen, which is deliberately unstyled for the purpose of rapid development of custom designs for single-use websites. Attempting to resell it violates the Envato’s usage license. This is illegal.xstortionist said
Also, just skimmed through the source code, I don’t see anything that looks stolen.I wrote the source code. I think I’m qualified to recognize what is / is not stolen. Everything from application structure to code style is stolen from Acumen. Literally hundreds of hours of work. He even kept my custom-formatted PHP DocBlocks intact using find/replace to shove his name in. Some image assets are re-used pixel-for-pixel.
@ pau1winslow: Please explain how I could learn a thing or two. Acumen is the top selling Magento theme, and nearly outsells the closest competitor 2:1. Isn’t it more likely the brand new user with no sales and no purchases simply stole the top selling item? Really.
All you have to do is remove the frame surrounding the preview and steal it there.
beetlesales said
xstortionist saidAll you have to do is remove the frame surrounding the preview and steal it there.
GravityDept saidI believe you are mistaken, if you look at the author, you’ll see that he doesn’t have a badge showing that he’s purchased an item. So if he hasn’t purchased your product, how could he steal your PHP source code? I don’t understand that concept. I looked at the source again, and the html / css structure isn’t the same as yours as well. You haven’t presented any evidence that he stole your theme, all I hear from you is speculation.
@ xstortionist: Visual appearance is not the issue. He skinned Acumen, which is deliberately unstyled for the purpose of rapid development of custom designs for single-use websites. Attempting to resell it violates the Envato’s usage license. This is illegal.xstortionist said
Also, just skimmed through the source code, I don’t see anything that looks stolen.I wrote the source code. I think I’m qualified to recognize what is / is not stolen. Everything from application structure to code style is stolen from Acumen. Literally hundreds of hours of work. He even kept my custom-formatted PHP DocBlocks intact using find/replace to shove his name in. Some image assets are re-used pixel-for-pixel.
@ pau1winslow: Please explain how I could learn a thing or two. Acumen is the top selling Magento theme, and nearly outsells the closest competitor 2:1. Isn’t it more likely the brand new user with no sales and no purchases simply stole the top selling item? Really.
You can’t steal PHP from your web browser.
@ xstortionist: Repeat after me: He stole Acumen on some torrent site. Glad we’re on the same page now. There are dozens of examples of Acumen-only code:
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beetlesales said
All you have to do is remove the frame surrounding the preview and steal it there.
Oh dear lol.. PHP is executed on the server.. by the time your browser has loaded the page the PHP has already been rendered and all you see is the HTML output. So no, you can’t just go and copy-and-paste somebody’s PHP code.
@GravityDebt I totally understand your frustration, but you really should be putting your case in front of Envato support instead of fueling a scene here. I can’t speak for the code because I haven’t seen it – my original post was just stating that I didn’t feel they looked similiar on the surface is all.
@ pau1winslow: Yes, obviously. Have you heard of MegaUpload? It got shut down for hosting copyrighted materials. There are thousands of illegal download sites just like it. All it takes is one evil person to publish an entire item (HTML, PHP , CSS, JS, documentation, images) and anybody can go download it. How can you be so naive?
Clearly, ‘mebozo’ did not purchase Acumen. Clearly, he has access to the source. It’s called stealing and I don’t understand why you’re defending it.
Envato Support has been notified, and I’m not happy with them either.
pau1winslow said
beetlesales saidOh dear lol.. PHP is executed on the server.. by the time your browser has loaded the page the PHP has already been rendered and all you see is the HTML output. So no, you can’t just go and copy-and-paste somebody’s PHP code.
All you have to do is remove the frame surrounding the preview and steal it there.
Wasn’t referring to PHP .
GravityDept said
@ pau1winslow: Yes, obviously. Have you heard of MegaUpload? It got shut down for hosting copyrighted materials. There are thousands of illegal download sites just like it. All it takes is one evil person to publish an entire item (HTML, PHP , CSS, JS, documentation, images) and anybody can go download it. How can you be so naive?Clearly, ‘mebozo’ did not purchase Acumen. Clearly, he has access to the source. It’s called stealing and I don’t understand why you’re defending it.
Envato Support has been notified, and I’m not happy with them either.
Snitch.
@GravityDebt
My post about stealing PHP was in response to beetlesales who claimed you could stroll into a demo and copy it out – that’s why I quoted him in my post. If you calm down a bit you might have spotted that. I’m fully aware how torrent sites work, cheers.
