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tricoos says

Well,

I have actually bought (sorry, licensed) many videos and some audios from Envato. However with the new licenses it’s not only unclear, I think it’s even way too expensive.

I’m licensing content here for my own personal (read: business) projects – doing nothing for any client, just for my own websites, videos etc.

As far as I understand I am only allowed to use a file (like an audio) in a single project. But what’s a project? I’m currently beginning to create a video series that’ll be available for viewing online for free (and maybe later available on a DVD , I haven’t decided yet).

If I’m using a music I licensed as a jingle or as background music as far as I understand I need to buy a license per video (as it’s a single project). So if I’ll be creating 10 videos and each license costs $8 I’d need to pay $80, right? Even if each video runs just 3-5 minutes? But I could just go to some royalty-free music sites and get the same (or even better) content for less than half the price. Why should I use AudioJungle anymore at all? Do I need to decide before even beginning whether it might be too expensive to license from Envato if the video series becomes too successful?

Has it really become illegal to license music here once for my own projects and use it in several of my own projects? Is it even possible technically to buy (and rate!) the same file multiple times?

The same applies to videos of course – if I’m forced to pay a sum of $60 for a 1-second video transition which costs $3 I’m using in 20 projects it doesn’t make sense anymore from an economic standpoint.

This reminds me of rather old-school licensing like Gettyimages whose cheap and very successful competitor is now iStockphoto with a very relaxed licensing (pay once, use often).

An urgent clarification is needed!

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DanielKeller says
As far as I understand I am only allowed to use a file (like an audio) in a single project. But what’s a project? I’m currently beginning to create a video series that’ll be available for viewing online for free (and maybe later available on a DVD , I haven’t decided yet).

if it’s the same product its allowed, like a series of videos, or like podcast episodes… you’re allowed to use 1 file for a series… I know that cause we had the same issue of another buyer in the past on the forums.

edit: same with transitions, if you use it for a video series like some tutorials for example, you only need to have 1 single use license of the file.

it would be good if that would be written on the license

you dont have to talk bad about Envato on the forums, you just could contact support to clarify that, and the world would be alright. :)

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scottwills Envato team says

Hi tricoos, thanks for posing the question! :)

First of all, we’re in the process of making the licensing much easier to understand, I agree with you that it can be a little confusing at times. :) That said, here’s everything you need to know:

To answer your question, it sounds like you just need to purchase audio using our Single Use No Resale Licence [“Single Use”] license. This is currently the default, basic, and cheapest license. :) To clarify what you are asking, take a look at this license and notice the following part:

”...limited to either your own personal use once or for a single use in a work you are undertaking for a client. However, you can make unlimited copies within the scope of this limited use right.

So the part above regarding making unlimited copies within the scope of this limited use right is in the context of you using a piece of audio here (that costs $3 – $10 here on AudioJungle) that can be used multiple times in the same vehicle. That vehicle might mean an audio loop at the start of the same podcast series that might have 100+ episodes, or music for an intro/logo for a series of 200 video tutorials you host online. If the audio is for the exact same “project”, the Single Use No Resale Licence [“Single Use”] license is exactly what you need.

Does that make sense? I hope that answers your question! Please feel free to contact support or even myself (sitemanager AT audiojungle DOT net) if you need any further clarification or would like to personally discuss what licenses are appropriate for any other projects you may be involved with.

I can assure you that our licenses and prices are hard to beat. :)

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tricoos says

Thanks for your quick replies. I already contacted the support but they’re not available on the weekend – and as Envato is from Australia it’s been too late when I sent the message but I need this info for the weekend so thanks for your replies! :-)

My current problem has now been resolved through your very detailed replies so I can just buy (license) two songs from AudioJungle right now.

But it still means if you’re creating many different projects (still not for a client but for your own business) it might be cheaper to use normal royalty-free songs from other sources, right? You should really improve the license with this regard. In my opinion it’s the right way to restrict the license to one project for client use. But for using it in your own projects… well, you whould think about that.

The problem is: what if the transition contains 8 different transitions (like this one: http://videohive.net/item/splatter-megapack/44403) and I’m only using one transition in one project – am I allowed to use the other 7 transitions in 7 different projects?

Anyways, I still think that the Envato marketplace is a goldmine – just like iStockphoto or Fotolia with regard to photos (you need to catch up on that ;-)). When I finally found these websites a whole new way of creativity was possible without investing large sums of money.

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scottwills Envato team says
But it still means if you’re creating many different projects (still not for a client but for your own business) it might be cheaper to use normal royalty-free songs from other sources, right?

No, not necessarily. There’s no such thing as a “normal, royalty-free song”, because every site stipulates different things. You should always read the terms and conditions and licensing agreements of each Web site you visit. I can’t comment on specific sites, but they all differ in many ways and most, if not all, are a lot more complicated (and more expensive) than what we have at AudioJungle.

Glad the previous posts helped, thanks for letting us know! :)

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graphic4444 says
Thanks for your quick replies. I already contacted the support but they’re not available on the weekend – and as Envato is from Australia it’s been too late when I sent the message but I need this info for the weekend so thanks for your replies! :-)

My current problem has now been resolved through your very detailed replies so I can just buy (license) two songs from AudioJungle right now.

But it still means if you’re creating many different projects (still not for a client but for your own business) it might be cheaper to use normal royalty-free songs from other sources, right? You should really improve the license with this regard. In my opinion it’s the right way to restrict the license to one project for client use. But for using it in your own projects… well, you whould think about that.

The problem is: what if the transition contains 8 different transitions (like this one: http://videohive.net/item/splatter-megapack/44403) and I’m only using one transition in one project – am I allowed to use the other 7 transitions in 7 different projects?

Anyways, I still think that the Envato marketplace is a goldmine – just like iStockphoto or Fotolia with regard to photos (you need to catch up on that ;-)). When I finally found these websites a whole new way of creativity was possible without investing large sums of money.

I had brought this up last year; originally there were no single vs multi licenses at FD/VH… recently they just added that… I agree that for us individual people who use this stuff on our own personal business websites (no clients), the content should be sold like all other royalty free (in this case music) sites have.

For example when you google royalty free music and buy from other sites like istock, there’s no per-project nor per-site limitation on any of the music tracks that are bought… that’s one thing that has me spending most of my budget on content elsewhere, though I spend thousands here as well.

I would give some thought to clarifying that or modifying the license, eg if I/my 1-person company makes 5 websites, all for my products and not for clients, then I don’t think I should have to license the same (flash file, video file, audio file) 5 different times, paying for a multi-use license… that license seems more fit for commercial web designers, and I agree with that… but for us “indies” running our own sites only, it would be best I think to have a single-company type license, as the other rf audio/video companies all do, like istock and others.

-k

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