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digitalscience says

Since Flash seems to be on it’s way out for sure (haha), and just looking at how the popular files for the week is now under 10 sales, I can only imagine it’s going to get worse. Also seems like the only viable frontier of Flash is games, and animation.. since the other stuff can be created with other technology.

In this case, why not slash prices on all Flash by 50%, and just make the most of the awesome library we have here, until Flash becomes completely worthless, just an idea. Maximize profits on what we have here, and make the most of it.. right?

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Tean says

I dont see the point of decreasing prices now, since pricing was never an issue, its the lack of interest for flash products these days.

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digitalscience says

I dont see the point of decreasing prices now, since pricing was never an issue, its the lack of interest for flash products these days.

Yeh but it’s a normal sales tactic to slash prices on things.. like PS3 comes out, PS2 is now half the price it use to be, people will still buy the PS2 purely cos its now really cheap. There is still interest in Flash, but not for too long… I mean I’m still getting sales daily, I wouldn’t make this post if there was zero interest in Flash, sales dont lie. The point of all this, is it should in theory increase revenue on ActiveDen.

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tsafi says

Why 50%? Why not 80%? It still won’t help you ,i think we pass already the return point for hoping flash will recover ,that’s the way i see things and flash is not a brand or have the name PS2 ,it’s just flash man ,there is really no new renovation with flash or the point to submit new stuff here and hoping for sell`s ,if you submit stuff that can be mimic with java script it’s a waste of time in my view …and if your last file submit, the zoom one, have alternative on the CC market it’s a problem for us flashers, what you DS and myself doing right now we are holding on the horn of the temple(browse the history) as last resort, once we will get tired holding the horn`s we will die ….well you will die first i am much more stronger then you as you already know :P

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Why 50%? Why not 80%? It still won’t help you ,i think we pass already the return point for hoping flash will recover ,that’s the way i see things and flash is not a brand or have the name PS2 ,it’s just flash man ,there is really no new renovation with flash or the point to submit new stuff here and hoping for sell`s ,if you submit stuff that can be mimic with java script it’s a waste of time in my view …and if your last file submit, the zoom one, have alternative on the CC market it’s a problem for us flashers, what you DS and myself doing right now we are holding on the horn of the temple(browse the history) as last resort, once we will get tired holding the horn`s we will die ….well you will die first i am much more stronger then you as you already know :P

Why so argumentative? lol 50% was an example, ok lets go with your 80% That is besides the point. This is also not about getting past the point so flash can recover, it probably wont recover. My point is, why sit with such a massive library of files that aren’t really selling, when you could just dramatically reduce the price to squeeze that last bit of cash before this site becomes worthless.

I dunno why my posts always become like a personal attack, but I guess that comes with the territory. Don’t worry I’m not holding the horn that Flash will be there forever, I know it’s doomed. Maybe I just supported it so much because its still in my mind a very powerful creative tool, and I don’t really feel the same about other technologies… it’s like kind of going through a break up and you’re in denial thats it over.. but I’ve been seeing a new girl now, themeforest – I think she has potential :D

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RimmonTrieu says

I think tsafi doesn’t attack you personally, he loves Flash like anyone of us and when it’s going down with fast pace like this he feels like every effort is useless.

Price adjustment is a complicated matter and may create many unbalanced issues in my opinion. We are actually quite clueless at the moment about the state of stock file Flash.

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tsafi says

Ya man me ? attacking a flasher no way but i am realistic .

You? So you dancing with the enemy now DS ? Ho man it’s only a matter of time I’ll see you as a shifter after they will brainwash you , why themeforest man ,i can hook you with some hotly from Aj to keep you balance on the right direction :P kidding man i am sure you will be happy .

More serious matter, you are not new here, tell me how many time you saw envato changing dramatic policy based on dav` suggestion (maybe if 500 people will complain on this topic ) So let’s be realistic.

I can tell you it’s very hard for me with flash this days ,i rarely work with flash this days but i still try to keep myself in shape and make something every day on my class ,but really its fading man ,what i get the most from my accounts this days is those fu* banners advertise but hey if the pay my $130 hourly rate just because they get the point they can’t do it with html5 and on the speed i delivered my work with flash fu** that ill do it ,but in my wildness dream i never thought i will do those crap stuff with flash .

Dam that themeforest destroying any piece of holy land we have here on AD :P

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VF says

Current trend of profit on AD = low.

Slash prices by 50% then,

Profit on AD = (low/2) + (complaints due to low/2)

I would say Envato to just halt accepting the new submissions and spend the staff/resource on something useful. I am not a Flash hater (hope you know) but Adobe is that much unreliable; even if Flash gains momentum with eventual industry changes, I highly doubt if Adobe will come forward to take care of it.

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digitalscience says

Current trend of profit on AD = low.

Slash prices by 50% then,

Profit on AD = (low/2) + complaints

Ok based on what facts… curious. Like imagine a website template selling at $20, might get 1 sale… $40 gets zero sales… u make money cutting prices OR leave at $40 and wait for flash to be officially dead, see my point? Think of how well the birthday bundle does, cos it’s ridiculously good value, people will by Flash if it’s super cheap. If a wordpress and full flash site is similar price, they’re gonna go for wordpress, cos its better technology, because Flash tech is not popular, it should be priced less I reckon. Otherwise you have all this microstock not selling, its microstock – the idea is its suppose to be cheap, and u sell large volumes, larger volumes arent happening so the price needs to come down.

Also I think complaints will be minimal why… a guy who is getting zero sales, and then gets his file price halved and it starts selling, is not gonna complain he is now making money, when initially nothing was being made. Large volumes of sales will compensate for the price decrease. The system is failing because Flash is now unpopular and is not competitively price to better technology – that’s the problem here. Flash for now could be seen as a cheaper alternative, with drawbacks – only way to make the most of the stock we have now, until it’s game over.

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VF says

^ DS, it is important to consider long term goal of any action. For example, I am pretty sure there will be little increase in sales immediately after price reduction. But that doesn’t going to help the situation after 3-4 months. The result after 3-4 month is more important than immediate 2-3 month results. In fact it is doubtful if sales increase will continue even more than 2 weeks; just look at the weekly popular page.

Every business and individual are abandoning Flash due to the very reason, the industry is very much unreliable; from that perspective, even a single minute of time investment with this industry is not productive. Whenever you think/plan about Flash, it should consider Adobe’s announcements and movements otherwise it won’t help in the long run.

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