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brandtz says

Hi Audio contributers and listeners!

(some of the questions and statements below have all ready been noted to Flashden, and answered, thank you for that)

I am fairly new here and just got “started” so sorry for asking questions all ready answered else where!

First, I would like to thank you all for a great site, I enjoy being a member. That said!!!!

Audio Jungle (Flashden has all ready answered some of these questions) There is a lot of “rumors” about this site Audio Jungle to enter the world wide web?

Is there any official statement or similar to read about this Jungle ?

Are Flashden close to reveal an eta on the Jungle ?

The audio section of Flashden seems pretty quiet to me! and that goes for sale, forum threats and user additions.

I assume Flashden staff are working non stop on this new site to come, with hopefully some cool new features for the audio contributers?  (there will be I know)

I assume Flashden all ready have discussed many issues concerning the audio section of Flashden, but I think it would be inspiring for you to hear from a new contributer and hopefully other contributers will follow up.

Generally it would be nice with some more focus on the audio section. (there will be I know)

Has there been an opinien/idea poll for the new Audio Jungle on Flashden for Audio contributers ?

Profile option It would be cool to have the option to edit more than the, all ready available options, a must have edit, is the name on the track.

It would also be great to have the option to deactivate the comments on your contribution.

Recognition One more thing that would be really cool, if your avatar/icon could be a part of the small player, just slightly faded in the background. Reason for that is of course the recognition effect for returning customers. Or something similar.

Categorys The category needs some( a lot) additions too, there are just not enough. A few examples would be : Atmospheric, Audio Logo, Music for games etc.

Exclusivity program A little surf on Flashden audio section and you can see that the audio contributers don’t sell much, even the tracks are excellent. Audio files will never (surprise me) reach the amount of sales compared to flash files, I think therefor the pricing should be adjusted and maybe have the current rate set up as well, or lower the current fee($500) for becoming a member of your exclusivity program only for audio contributers. The exclusivity program is just not developed for audio (only) contributers.

Audio in general Creating audio tracks can be as “hard” and sometimes even as complex as an xml driven flash-application. Getting the “message” merged and revealed in a small track is hard work (don’t get me wrong, I love it). Finding that new sound, the perfect distance between the tones or the grooving beat is sometimes damn hard work and should be “rewarded” fairly.

Audio Approval How many people are taking care of the Audio approval? ( I have meet Adrian, a very nice acquaintance).

Witch quality standards/guidelines are the Audio staff following on approval ? I can only find this on Flashden : AUDIO : For audio Items, the sound file must sound clear and not include any static or sound distortion.

Are there other quality standards regards audio being followed ?

Community As it is for now there is really “nothing” (exaggerated) in return from being a contributer of audio files on Flashden except the fun of being a part of this community.

I like the concept and have felt very welcome by Flashden members and staff.

Thank you for a great community!

Please have in mind that this is not criticism but just some random thoughts and ideas. I hope to see some of the Audio members contribute to this threat, as I think it will be a huge advantage for Flashden in the development of the new Audio Jungle to come.

Best regards Lyden

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MarkBrodhuber Envato team says

Hey Lyden! You have a lot of great suggestions in there. I believe a few of them have already been brought up or discussed. I dont think there is an official date or time frame set for AudioJungle but I could be wrong. But I believe the staff are working hard to get it out! I cant wait to see it as well!

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iDraw says

i got the brown badge till yesterday :D… i agree with you, it would be very nice when we would know the release of audiojungle

the sales of the audio section are low, exactly cause of that reason

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brandtz says
Hey Lyden! You have a lot of great suggestions in there. I believe a few of them have already been brought up or discussed. I dont think there is an official date or time frame set for AudioJungle but I could be wrong. But I believe the staff are working hard to get it out! I cant wait to see it as well!

Thank you xdozex ! your welcome to fill in if you like !

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brandtz says
i got the brown badge till yesterday :D… i agree with you, it would be very nice when we would know the release of audiojungle the sales of the audio section are low, exactly cause of that reason

Hi iDraw and welcome to the threat!

Congrats with the badge…..... your on your way to the top!

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Solidbeats Envato team says
the sales of the audio section are low, exactly cause of that reason

Say what now?

I don’t find audio sales low at all. besides, this is FLASHden. people come here for flash in first hand. Simple as that.

It will snap up though, once AJ is born.. hopefully :) don’t forget 303 redirection!

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ADG3studios Envato team says

Hey Lyden,

I think It’s really cool of you to take the initiative to start an audio discussion thread like this, with all these points. I’ve always thought a lot of what you mentioned here are core issues that I trust staff is addressing while preparing the launch of AJ.

That being said, I really agree with you on the point of flashden’s model not being particularly suited to the likes of most composers. It’s true the prices are low, the rates and exclusivity tiers are exceedingly hard to hit selling just audio . Doesn’t mean it’s impossible. But I think that is what isnt attracting more audio to the site. Of course all artists of are proud of their work, but the audio industry in particular is used to dealing with much higher rates, i.e. license fees for music on ads, tv and film etc… so yeah Flashden is mainly for flash and the other media takes a backseat. Most composers are VERY attached to their creations and don’t feel right releasing them royalty free for any medium in exchange for 25% of 3-6 bucks to start, with only the hopes of reaching 50% after several Years if they are lucky. Personally I feel that if the rates or commissions were raised, even a bit, the influx of audio producers would raise significantly.

Bottom line .. Selling audio really isnt the same as selling flash, I really think

I also agree with you completely when you said “creating audio tracks can be as “hard” and sometimes even as complex as an xml driven flash-application. Getting the “message” merged and revealed in a small track is hard work.”

That is totally true, that’s a big part of the reason why the low rate of return feels discouraging to most audio peeps on the surface I believe. But when you look deeper, there is a golden opportunity now. Audio DOES sell.. maybe not a lot, but consistently, like Solid said. That’s what I’m seeing and that’s why I love FD. Still the surface appeal counts for the majority and I can only hope AJ will embrace this perspective, and take FD’s audio in a bigger and better direction. Your other ideas there are really great and I’d love to see them happen too.

You know I’m a fan of your work, and I’m sure with time your files will find their way into many flashers hearts too. They’re very good and truly unique.. so keep up the good work, and hope to see you around the forums more. :)

Cheers

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dada says
the sales of the audio section are low, exactly cause of that reason

Say what now?

I don’t find audio sales low at all. besides, this is FLASHden. people come here for flash in first hand. Simple as that.

It will snap up though, once AJ is born.. hopefully :) don’t forget 303 redirection!

i know… but what i mean is, the reason why we are not on audiojungle right now

for flashden it goes very good

EDIT : i forgot that i am not logged in as iDraw :D

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dada says
I think It’s really cool of you to take the initiative to start an audio discussion thread like this, with all these points. I’ve always thought a lot of what you mentioned here are core issues that I trust staff is addressing while preparing the launch of AJ.

YAAAYY !!!:D

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brandtz says

Hi all

I am glad to see that there are Audio-people out there ;o)

Thanks Adrian for contributing to the thread, some good points and considerations you have.

And yes I am really looking forward to AJ, I have a ton of Audio contributions I am holding back for the hopefully very soon unveiling of AJ.

And the more constructive input we get to this thread, the more Flashden staff have to work with.

Let us see some more audio contributers in here …........... :o)

Best regards Lyden

Wishes :

1. More control over your tracks would be awsome. An option to upload a new mix, without to much hazle would be awesome.

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