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Kurlykovs says

What do you use to listen to our tracks head phones or some bad ass speakers? :D

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kristopherfisheraudio says

Is this a dig at the AudioJungle reviewers? If so I would be careful, they have a huge amount of support from the authors here.

However if you are genuanly curious to know what they use to listen to the items then I would think that it would be a mixture, your music/audio should sound professional across all ranges of playback systems, be it a $10,000 pair of mastering grade monitors, a $1500 paid of nearfield studio monitors, a $500 home system or a $30 set of iPod headphones.

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buddhabeats says

You know this is something I have been generally curious about. Not in terms of what they use, but rather what they check for – in addition to the overall quality and if it will sell or not.

Are they looking at things as a mastering engineer would look at it? For example, are they checking the overall loudness compared to other similar tracks here, checking the tracks in Mono for phase issues, checking to see if it will play nicely over several popular types of playback systems, etc…?

I’ve only used one track from here-given to me by a client-and it was all over the place in regards to phase IMO. (go easy on the reverb with the lower bass guys!)

Uniformity of the final product should be striven for…for the sake of the buyers. I hope it’s being addressed at the approval stage.

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Kurlykovs says

Its not a dig against them in anyway and i really don’t care how much support they got because some of it is true support some of it is just simply trying to suck of hoping your tracks will get accepted :). The reason i was asking is because a lot of tracks here are stereo not mono and so when you listen to it on headphones you see one thing and when you listen to it on the actual speakers there is a whole different thing when it comes to panning and sound moving from left to right :) or lets say i made a track with my headphones and then my friend listened to it on his 5.1 and he said oh the bass is not coming out from sub woofer and of course this is a whole different topic here 5.1 vs 2.0 but anyway i think if i knew this question and some of the questions that Buddha happened to ask here too it would help me a little bit i could see a better picture :)

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Mihai_Sorohan says

I think, some of the reviewers are actually authors, so they might listen in their studio monitors.

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Kurlykovs says

I think, some of the reviewers are actually authors, so they might listen in their studio monitors.

You are right! Some of them are indeed authors so now here comes a question! What are the requirements to be a reviewer on the hard wear side? :) AJ surely has some or else people could be using some 5$ headphones or lets say “Reviewing” it on their phone while doing something else lol xD

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Revturkey says

Hi Kurly, is this question so you can get the same equipment?

Otherwise what is the point of asking? Ultimately it is not the reviewer’s speakers that the lisenced tracks get heard on…it is a vast almost incomprehensible selection out there in the world. Usually a good audio engineer will try his or her mix on a few different standard of quality monitors to find out how the tracks sound across a good cross section of speaker. This is why Yamaha NS10 monitors have been popular, because if they sound good on those, chances are they will be reasonable on most others. Perhaps you know all this, in which case fair enough.

I really don’t mean to be rude and I am new here but…you seem to post a lot of threads about how the review team go about their business. I think most people on here defending the reviewers are not ‘sucking up’ to get a more favourable review. Why would they? The panel’s job is to use their experience to help us get tracks uploaded in as highly commercial condition as possible. I am reasonably experienced at producing and recording but I made a few mistakes that they picked up on and I am glad they did. If I had sold a track with a problem, even a small one, it would have damaged my reputation and maybe cost me and Envato future sales…If the tracks make money then Envato makes money and reviewers probably get paid :)

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kristopherfisheraudio says

At the end of the day, the audio should playback at a professional standard across all ranges of systems. And while I do agree to an extent about the whole stereo/phantom middle issue when using headphones, you do need to find a middle ground. Simply put if your work is composed, produced and mixed to meet industry standards then you wont have an issue.

Additionally due to rapid improvements of DSP technology built into mobiles, ipods, and home stereo systems with particular reference to psycho-acoustics, the issue of cheaper non-pro audio playback systems is being used becomes alot smaller. While a $50 speaker will not have the same frequency response as a $500 speaker you will be able to ‘hear’ these non-generated frequency’s due to the new technology. Simply put, as long as the audio is mixed to balance all frequency’s you wont have an issue.

I have never had an issue with any items being rejected and my workflow is simple:
Compose > Rest > Compose > Rest > Mix > Rest > Edit/Compose > Mix > Rest > Mix > Rest > Master > Rest > Master.

Most mistakes are made because authors are to quick to get their new items uploaded and do not take the time to check and evaluate them before submitting them. If you don’t give each item a decent about of QA time you are just damaging your own reputation and sales, no one else’s.

And finally on the note about if reviewers can evaluate work that is made for 5.1 etc, the requirements state, stereo. Besides if a item is used for TV or Cinema where it is being broadcast at 5.1 etc then they have equipment when sends each channel to the correct location so you do not end up with your stereo left being played back in the rear right speaker and so on. If your work has been played back where the channels are messed up after the stereo to surround conversion then either is the aesthetic nature of what they wanted (most unlikely) or they have an issue with there system. Stereo is the standard for music/audio archives, it is the broadcasters job to make the conversion so don’t worry about it.

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garethcoker Envato team says

While I don’t presume to know what the reviewers are evaluating stuff on, nor do I claim to know the review process, but I would be surprised if they have a ‘dedicated listening environment’ for the sole purpose of evaluating AJ tracks. I suspect that much like the majority of other users here, they are reviewing in a home studio, possibly with some acoustic treatment (but maybe none at all) and some decent but not insanely priced speakers. AKA – what most of us are using.

What they are really looking for, is… ‘Does it work?’

A very open question, but those who have worked in the commercial field for long enough knows that this is a question that comes up on an almost daily basis.

My point is, is that it doesn’t really matter what they are listening on, because the technical / sound quality part is just a part of the whole. There are some poorly recorded (technical quality) tracks here, that have a great vibe/commercial feel. And there are some fantastically recorded (technical quality) tracks here, which have no sales whatsoever.

As long as they are not the worst speakers in the world, I don’t think the equipment being used is really a relevant question. If reviewers were checking for all of the problems that have been mentioned in this thread and the whole litany of technical stuff that can come up, they would never get anything done. A track doesn’t need to be technically perfect to be good.

My favourite example of this is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rluU6BGpKw – at 3:52 there is an obvious mistake (clearly this recording was done live in one take). But it doesn’t really matter because the performance as a whole is captivating. You will find hundreds/thousands of examples of technical hiccups/glitches in music recordings over the years. It’s the nature of the beast. (Funnily enough, I think this track could possibly be soft rejected from AJ because the mistake at 3:52 is so obvious, even though this specific recording has been licensed a gazillion times, haha!)

What I think the reviewers are looking for alongside whether the track works or not is obvious stuff that clearly detracts from the track working as well as it should.

But ultimately, if it works, it works. That’s my viewpoint anyway.

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Kurlykovs says

Hi Kurly, is this question so you can get the same equipment?

Otherwise what is the point of asking? Ultimately it is not the reviewer’s speakers that the lisenced tracks get heard on…it is a vast almost incomprehensible selection out there in the world. Usually a good audio engineer will try his or her mix on a few different standard of quality monitors to find out how the tracks sound across a good cross section of speaker. This is why Yamaha NS10 monitors have been popular, because if they sound good on those, chances are they will be reasonable on most others. Perhaps you know all this, in which case fair enough.

I really don’t mean to be rude and I am new here but…you seem to post a lot of threads about how the review team go about their business. I think most people on here defending the reviewers are not ‘sucking up’ to get a more favourable review. Why would they? The panel’s job is to use their experience to help us get tracks uploaded in as highly commercial condition as possible. I am reasonably experienced at producing and recording but I made a few mistakes that they picked up on and I am glad they did. If I had sold a track with a problem, even a small one, it would have damaged my reputation and maybe cost me and Envato future sales…If the tracks make money then Envato makes money and reviewers probably get paid :)

You are right i did attack a reviewer before because music is art which means 2 + 2 is not always 4 :) but this thread has nothing to do with attacking the reviewers team i just wanted to know what they use / their work flow nothing else and i do not think i would be buying the same equipment as you mentioned above, that thought did not even cross my mind (although it is a good one xD ) I am just simply interested just as i mentioned above about the headphones and speakers difference and such. And yes a lot of authors probably have a pair of headphones and speakers and they cross check on both just to make sure it sounds right, but surely with the amount of tracks being uploaded to Audio Jungle i do not think that the reviewers team are listening to one and the same track more than twice. Probably 1 time and if it is one time then they use only 1 devise either headphones or speakers :) Anyway Just wanted to know how it all works that’s it nothing personal in this post.

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