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lucafrancini Reviewer says
Let me tell you first that this is not a classic thread about Daw x VS Daw y, but simply a description of East West Play Engine behaviour in two well known daws: Cubase 6 and Pro Tools 10.

I use PT just for sound on video, but today I tried to play some notes with a patch from East West Silver Orchestra (Violas Staccato) inside Pro Tools and suddenly it sounded “different” to my ears.

So I bounced the result, then I exported midi file and re-imported in Cubase, loaded the same patch and bounce it again.

Here they are:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62567774/pt.wav

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62567774/cb.wav

The one exported with PT sound more clear and dynamic to me, you can see from the waveform too. All velocity are set the same (100), no plugins applied. It was just a matter of selecting the patch and bounce.

Can you help me understand the reason and if maybe I did some mistakes in doing this comparison? I don’t think that Pro Tools sounds better than Cubase, because in the past I did songs in every system (in Logic too) and there was any clear difference, but maybe the Play Engine work just better in Pro Tools?
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MikeSea says

Interesting, I’m using PLAY inside Cubase since years but never tried Pro Tools. The PT version sounds indeed better to my ears. Can you open your Device Setup inside Cubase and check if your Steinberg Audio Power box is checked?

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lucafrancini Reviewer says

Interesting, I’m using PLAY inside Cubase since years but never tried Pro Tools. The PT version sounds indeed better to my ears. Can you open your Device Setup inside Cubase and check if your Steinberg Audio Power box is checked?

Hi I have it in italian so I don’t know if it’s the same. Is that box under “Audio Priority” and “Multi Processing” ?
If it is, what’s its function? Anyway I have it unchecked at the moment :)

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soundroll says

did you export in real time mode from both DAW’s?

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lucafrancini Reviewer says

did you export in real time mode from both DAW’s?

Yes, realtime for both ;)

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soundroll says


did you export in real time mode from both DAW’s?
Yes, realtime for both ;)
same sound card? resolution and sample rate? etc ?
I hear the samples on some plastic speakers, and I don’t hear the difference.
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lucafrancini Reviewer says

Yes, same saffire pro 40, 44100, 24bit. Now I’m with my macbook and I can’t notice any difference from its little speakers but I hear them on sony headphones and on ns-10. When you can, give it a listen ;)

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MikeSea says

try this:

“Priorit√† Audio” to “Normale”, and be sure you’ve got “Attiva Schema di Potenza Audio di Steinberg” + “Multi Processing” checked.

This should make a big difference :)

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delgibbons says

I find the panning law makes a difference too, try fiddling with that in Cubase as it may be the mix setup ;)

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lucafrancini Reviewer says

delgibbons: I forgot to check the panning law! Have to look at that

MikeSea: Tonight I’ll try it. This option wasn’t in Cubase Studio 4 I guess, because I can’t remember of it. With the switch to Cubase 6 I didn’t notice it untill now. I’ll let you know ;)

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