Here is flash cs4 new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/features/?view=topnew
looks more features for designer. and more features same as director. what do you think ? 
Here is flash cs4 new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/features/?view=topnew
looks more features for designer. and more features same as director. what do you think ? 
I dreamed of these things
It seems Flash is becoming more like 3DStudio but for 2D.
Does anyone here use Toonboom? Can someone compare between this and Flash?
lets just hope they make it more stable/bug free than CS3 . Nothing really grabs me apart from the 3d stuff, but you can do that with papervision anyway.
The timeline will be change dramatically in CS4 will take some time to get use to it. You also said “features for designer” as entering strong into AS3 and the coming CS4 you must be a coder first and designer later, lots of flash pure web designers will start to face the developer reality, since you can do lots of graphic in coding to save “kb” size, in away i see flash coming in to more coding and more complicit flash web site that will make shock your head “How did they do that ”,”the simplicity” coding in MX and flash 8/cs3 will not be the same in the next AS and coming future . But I am really exited about the coming CS4 .
I disagree with that developer first, designer later philosophy… I mean, IK and a track view animator are a lot more approachable than frames and onion skin.
I think CS4 is an upgrade for designers not just developers. Just because there are many new language features for coders, doesn’t mean they took design features away.
I’ve been using the IDE since Flash 4, and I can’t remember them taking a designer feature away.
Don’t fear designers, I predict a much smoother and happier workflow in CS4 .
Oh and, in reply to chuck… is CS4 3D accelerated? Do we have confirmation yet?
I disagree with that developer first, designer later philosophy… I mean, IK and a track view animator are a lot more approachable than frames and onion skin.I think CS4 is an upgrade for designers not just developers. Just because there are many new language features for coders, doesn’t mean they took design features away.
I’ve been using the IDE since Flash 4, and I can’t remember them taking a designer feature away.
Don’t fear designers, I predict a much smoother and happier workflow in CS4 .
Oh and, in reply to chuck… is CS4 3D accelerated? Do we have confirmation yet?
ourben
I am first a designer/ and then a coder. When I move to work with flash 10 years ago my emphasis was first to design my flash site outside flash (not all) and bring the element in to flash and build them in a dynamic way. Since then flash develop very nicely more powerful on the stage and more coding to bring stunning dynamic element into the flash stage. Today when I build big complicate web site my gold is to fight with the flash size (no site that I build will go over 150k-200k and the rest I build it in external background element so the surfer will not notice what’s loading behind the screen so everything will be available without the surfer notice any loading.(just my style ) As flash bring more element in coding and saving “Kb” and bring new fetchers in design I will go with the coding and not with the design ( Photoshop ). I feel and maybe it’s just my after 4 years studying at the Visual Art Scholl I start to abandoned the classic design and get more focuses on coding, its defiantly in my opinion a change that a lot of flash designers need to go, true this process. In my opinion the power in flash is shifting from the actual design in to the powerful coding (“sadly “) .more to say combing all the element to communicate getting more complicit but that a deferent subject. But again that’s just my opinion.
I disagree with that developer first, designer later philosophy… I mean, IK and a track view animator are a lot more approachable than frames and onion skin.I think CS4 is an upgrade for designers not just developers. Just because there are many new language features for coders, doesn’t mean they took design features away.
I’ve been using the IDE since Flash 4, and I can’t remember them taking a designer feature away.
Don’t fear designers, I predict a much smoother and happier workflow in CS4 .
Oh and, in reply to chuck… is CS4 3D accelerated? Do we have confirmation yet?ourben
I am first a designer/ and then a coder. When I move to work with flash 10 years ago my emphasis was first to design my flash site outside flash (not all) and bring the element in to flash and build them in a dynamic way. Since then flash develop very nicely more powerful on the stage and more coding to bring stunning dynamic element into the flash stage. Today when I build big complicate web site my gold is to fight with the flash size (no site that I build will go over 150k-200k and the rest I build it in external background element so the surfer will not notice what’s loading behind the screen so everything will be available without the surfer notice any loading.(just my style ) As flash bring more element in coding and saving “Kb” and bring new fetchers in design I will go with the coding and not with the design ( Photoshop ). I feel and maybe it’s just my after 4 years studying at the Visual Art Scholl I start to abandoned the classic design and get more focuses on coding, its defiantly in my opinion a change that a lot of flash designers need to go, true this process. In my opinion the power in flash is shifting from the actual design in to the powerful coding (“sadly ” ) .more to say combing all the element to communicate getting more complicit but that a deferent subject. But again that’s just my opinion.
I wasn’t saying that Flash is not good for coders. What I was saying was just that Flash has not changed much for designers… until CS4 .
This release is really going to shake things up for designers: powerful WYSIWYG elements haven’t exactly been coming thick and fast so far. CS3 isn’t much more design friendly than Flash 4 was.
It isn’t fair to say Flash is shifting more into code than design. It is simply not true. Flash has more for designers and lots more for developers than it ever has.
Nothing has ever been taken away!
That is what we need to remember.
(well, maybe frame animation, but god knows that is awful)
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