(Also I won’t deny that Envato’s plans to implement creative 1099 reporting have made me a little shy about having more than one account here, though it sounds like reporting isn’t going to start Jan 1 after all, so I don’t have the end of November deadline I originally thought.)
Joel – I’ve been a bit out of the loop on that, what’s the creative 1099 reporting about?
Its just unprofessional to ask a client/customer to fill out a form and prove that they already purchased a license days/weeks/months after they purchased it.
Really? Why is it unprofessional to essentially ask for a receipt after purchase? I would have thought it was more professional to do this as it shows you’re a legitimate business protecting their IP.
We do this all the time with software, iloks, elicensors, challenge-response codes etc. for our software, I’m not sure what the difference is with this? Playing the devil’s advocate here, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask for a proof of purchase, otherwise, what is the point of a proof of purchase?
Congratulations pz! That’s a mega-über-big achievement! Seriously, it’s been incredible seeing how quickly you’ve risen to the top, thoroughly well-deserved.
I think people are really overthinking this and making the AdRev discussion way too complicated. It’s really simple.
“If you bought it, show me your receipt.”Nothing more, nothing less.
I’d buy that for a dollar. +2 from me Mr P! +2 for you too Alumo, but that goes without saying.
I hope you are not monetizing this thread!
Well, I was about to inform you there is a third-party match on everything you do Graham
I would like to hear ElephantWoman’s thoughts on what has been mentioned so far. I think it’s a positive thing she (making an assumption on the gender based on the username) has brought up her thoughts here as I’m sure there are other film makers who are confused / angry / frustrated by AdRev. But I do feel knowledge around things like how easy it is to clear a claim should to be communicated between film makers as well, and an FAQ by Envato would help clarify that situation I think.
My question for writers is this- are you guys mostly uploading to ADREV to “protect” your music or are you doing it to earn money? ...would it have been better if the songs were getting more attention on these videos as to now not being shown on YOUTUBE?
In answer to the first part, I’m doing it to monitor where my music is used like many other composers have been doing for years with Tunesat, although only for uses on YouTube obviously and for free as opposed to the hefty fee Tunesat charges. Getting compensated for illegal usage is a bonus, but it’s certainly not replacing my primary aim of selling licenses to my customers.
In answer to your second question, I think if those video owners knew that they could clear the claim by simply purchasing a (dirt-cheap) license for the track and then clear the claim in a very short space of time, then you would get a sale for your track and they could monetise their video. Video makers who make money from their advertising on YT are usually fine with that – I’m surprised the authour of a 1,000,000 viewcount video simply removed the video.
That, for me, is the point of AdRev i.e. not to capitalise on legitimate usage of your music, but rather keep tabs on those that don’t.
+1 jhunger, sophonic and basspartout.
Elephantwoman, I can understand your concern with your clients having to clear the claim on their own channels as they would then see where the music came from. You probably don’t want that as, apart from anything, it could undermine what you’re charging them if it’s more than the license fee.
But bear in mind, this is something that isn’t only on AJ, it’s across the board as AdRev is an independent system. Like I’ve mentioned before, I really don’t think systems like this are going to go away considering huge companies like Universal use it to protect their artists. I think following the steps of quickly (and proactively) clearing a video or whitelisting a channel by working with the composer directly would show your clients you’re on the ball and looking after their interests.
Very generous of you Sky and well done on the win! Rather than put my own track up, I would like suggest a friend of mines track:http://audiojungle.net/item/king-of-thrones/9106323