Posts by michiels

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michiels says


I am creating a prototype at http://themedemo.co. I use it for myself but would like others to be able to easily demo their themes as well. I am still testing it out privately to know if the servers can handle it.

If you would like to help out please reply to this thread.

How it currently works:

  1. Upload your theme
  2. You get a unique URL that you can send to potential customers or put on your TF page.
  3. On that unique URL, anyone will be able to sign up for a theme demo by entering their email address.
  4. After submitting, a unique and secure sandbox gets created for your theme for that specific user. Every new user gets their own sandbox.
  5. After 24 hours the sandbox gets removed and the demo period is over.

Currently the only way to prevent demo users from reading theme files is by writing and installing a Plugin that lists the Wordpress directory and reads the files. So, for now I added an option that you can disable or enable plugin installation.

I personally would not mind that people read my PHP since it is quite a hassle to completely download a theme via a Plugin. Most buyers don’t know how to do this. Second argument: what if someone steals your theme. This will happen anyways since some buyers are just assholes and they will put it on newsgroups or other websites.

The best way to prevent theft is to focus on the customers that actually pay and give them the best support as possible. Giving them a trial before they are going to buy is a good start.

Sounds like a very cool thing you have there.

Allthough i think i will never host my whole theme on somebody else his server for trial purpose. I would only use something like that on my own environment.

You also could setup a MU wordpress site where people can play with the theme. Is your thing based on that perhaps?

Anyway, it still sounds very cool what you’re doing there, is there a place where i can follow the progress?

Thanks!

It’s all about trust I think. I see no gain in being able to look into your theme files. Really, I have no use for it.

Setting up a MU site limits you into some things. For example: it’s harder to automate it and to automatically have the trial end after a number of hours. Also, in a MU site, people could upload mallicious code and hack other demo’s or even the main MU installation. I don’t want that. I feel much more secure if each demo runs in its own PHP installation so you are absolutely sure the demo user can only break his own demo.

I have no blog or progress page set up right now but I am going to create one so you can follow progress. I’ll let you know when it is finished.

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michiels says

I am creating a prototype at http://themedemo.co. I use it for myself but would like others to be able to easily demo their themes as well. I am still testing it out privately to know if the servers can handle it.

If you would like to help out please reply to this thread.

How it currently works:

  1. Upload your theme
  2. You get a unique URL that you can send to potential customers or put on your TF page.
  3. On that unique URL, anyone will be able to sign up for a theme demo by entering their email address.
  4. After submitting, a unique and secure sandbox gets created for your theme for that specific user. Every new user gets their own sandbox.
  5. After 24 hours the sandbox gets removed and the demo period is over.

Currently the only way to prevent demo users from reading theme files is by writing and installing a Plugin that lists the Wordpress directory and reads the files. So, for now I added an option that you can disable or enable plugin installation.

I personally would not mind that people read my PHP since it is quite a hassle to completely download a theme via a Plugin. Most buyers don’t know how to do this. Second argument: what if someone steals your theme. This will happen anyways since some buyers are just assholes and they will put it on newsgroups or other websites.

The best way to prevent theft is to focus on the customers that actually pay and give them the best support as possible. Giving them a trial before they are going to buy is a good start.

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michiels says

Hey everyone,

How did this work out for everyone? Is there still an ongoing initiative to make this work? The thread has been started over two years ago and I was just searching the TF forums for “trial theme”.

I think a solution to people not buying your theme because they don’t if it’s their use case or if it’s compatible with plugins they like to use would be great. Don’t you think?

It’s also a great opportunity for buyers to see if they are comfortable with your theme. This way, you as an author don’t get bad ratings because someone just didn’t understand your implementation and you would have helped them otherwise.

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michiels says

Why not a tool with a gui?

Personally, I like the command line better for these kind of things because you can integrate it with other scripts and tools better, and it fits into our development workflow with version management and deployment.

A GUI would be great for some people too but a command line tool is much easier to use on multiple operating systems.

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michiels says

Hi everyone,

We at Firmhouse are both Ruby (on Rails) and PHP / WordPress developers and we decided to blend the worlds and start with creating a little open source online tool for easy WordPress installation and theme/plugin generation.

We call it PressPass. For example. To generate a new clean WordPress installation, you can execute:

presspass new my_wordpress_site

This will download the latest version of WordPress and unpack it as the directory my_wordpress_site so you can add that to your virtual hosts or any other development directory you use.

The tool itself is written in the programming language Ruby and you can install it with Rubygems. Rubygems is installed on your Mac by default and it’s quite easy to install it on Windows and Linux too.

We are planning on adding new options like presspass generate theme my_theme to generate a clean WordPress theme with a few basics already set up.

For more info, check out the code on GitHub: http://github.com/michiels/presspass. Feedback is appreciated!

Thanks

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michiels says

I am thinking about creating something where you could point your users to “subscribe” to your template or updates about your author and attach a nice visual change log to it.

People would be able to subscribe to you or your Envato item with a link in your documentation or a button on your item page. When you upload a new version of your template or maybe even publish a new template, you would be able to notify them with a separate change log url where they can see your changes and see progress over previous versions.

I guess this is a great way to improve customer service and also to promote updates and new templates.

What would you think of something like that?

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michiels says
cmt said
michiels said
In what way do you notify your customers with updates? I assume on your TF page but do you you have other communication channels for updating your customers?

Most authors here, including me, promote the updates on their Facebook and Twitter pages.

At the moment ThemeForest notifies you in no way on item updates, but Envato staff has promised to change that soon. :superbashfulcute:

Nice :) I reckon social media has a lot of benefits.

Cool! Hoping that will be a huge update.

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michiels says
cmt said
I recently published a massive update (new things + bugfixes) for my Tumblr theme and the first week after that, there was about 20% sales boost. Bugfixes are actually another case, because they usually require quick reaction, or new buyers will be disappointed after purchasing or at least repulsed before they buy the theme, when they see the author doesn’t really care.

Awesome that the massive updated increased sales with 20%! I agree that bug fixes are just to keep up the quality for your current customers and don’t disappoint new customers.

In what way do you notify your customers with updates? I assume on your TF page but do you you have other communication channels for updating your customers?

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michiels says

This is a question I have for TF authors. I am wondering how you engage with new and current customers trough updates of your template?

Do you update your template to get a sales boost? Or do you just update your template for fixing bugs and adding new features.

In my opinion. Providing clear communication, updates and awesome support will increase your reputation, ratings and most importantly: happy customers.

What kinds of communication do you use to keep your current customers bound to you as an author or a specific template you sell?

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michiels says

Awesome to see this thread. I’ve already posted a similar question in another thread where I asked where to sell you WordPress template. Is that your own site, a marketplace like TF or some other channel (Facebook, Twitter, Magazine Ads? ;).

I am actually working on a product that should help make a thriving business out of designing and selling WordPress template. The main goal is earn money and get a lifestyle business out of creating beautiful templates for your customers, while keeping your own brand and your own place online.

I am still looking for some people to interview to find out about what would you would be needing to earn money with templates and what could be improved about current ways of selling templates.

If you’re interested, please give me a message :)

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