Posts by jonathan01

2497 posts Bird is the word..
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  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
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jonathan01
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Didn’t work out too well for Brazil in the World Cup ;)

2497 posts Bird is the word..
  • Located in United States
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
  • Has been part of the Envato Community for over 7 years
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jonathan01
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I didn’t find the survey to really be about discussing this subject but more along the lines of pricing for Envato – what exactly was the point in this?

Hi jonathan01,

We’ve had lots of feedback on this forum to suggest that (among other things) authors felt that either they should be providing the service or they should be receiving compensation for someone else providing the service. The survey questions around these points are designed to help determine which option authors prefer so that we can work out where to focus our attention.

The pricing in these questions are merely a way for us to identify if the option an author selects is greatly affected by how much they receive. The values themselves were purely an example and are by no means what we would use if this initiative went ahead as there has been no analysis into what authors should be paid.

As you can imagine, survey’s are not an exact science but we do hope that the results will give us enough of an indication to proceed.

Cheers, Andrew

Hi Andrew,

I see multiple authors who want this ‘service’, others who do not want this at all, others who wish to do their own installs from the service, others who wish for the service and earning potential and others that want to handle the install service from their own site on their own terms with their buyers.

There’s no clear message here and that is my point. Your survey is based around the fact that yet again, Envato are not asking authors what they want, rather they are saying this is happening so lets do a survey on some of the details.

I will clarify my position to be clearer – I do my own installs, of my own themes, from my own site, I charge what I want and Envato are nothing to do with it.

So saying that, an example would be – hey Andrew, I’m cooking dinner would you like some of the dinner I am cooking? You say no thanks I have my own, I then say ok, so your choices are fish or beef. You would reply, I already said I don’t want the dinner you are cooking, I provide my own. I say ok let’s do a survey then shall we, here’s the first question, would you like fish or beef, how much will would you pay for this etc.

I’m not trying to be sarcastic here in anyway, just trying to show you how it feels for those authors that do not agree with either going thru your service, which take s a huge chunk of money, and then holds the money, and provides it in an awkward platform that is outside of the marketplaces, my support and also requires a completely different account – bad experience for all.

I do not want someone else installing my files because I’ve had several experiences with your ‘hand-picked experts’ who simply can’t even follow the detailed documentation, constantly ask me to do things and end up spoiling a potentially good relationship I could of had with my buyer, as I am now the seller it’s my buyer, not yours.

I hope you and others find this feedback useful, if you wish to discuss things in more detail privately you can always email me from my profile page.

Jonathan

2497 posts Bird is the word..
  • Located in United States
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
  • Has been part of the Envato Community for over 7 years
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jonathan01
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I believe you must place all CPT in to plugins now to be accepted.

2497 posts Bird is the word..
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  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
  • Has been part of the Envato Community for over 7 years
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jonathan01
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You need to ask the author using their method of support outlined either on the item description, your documentation or the support tab of the item as this is a general forum.

2497 posts Bird is the word..
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  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
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jonathan01
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But if you use your own preview bar you already remove the standard one and can run that on your own buy now button no?

2497 posts Bird is the word..
  • Located in United States
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
  • Has been part of the Envato Community for over 7 years
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jonathan01
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You completely mis-read my response. I’ve done nothing but reply with information and in no way was it meant to be condescending tone – not sure where or how I did that?

I was referring to the fact that email builders are not included when people buy them, they simply gain access to a 3rd party service / platform that is the builder, and I don’t particularly agree it’s a good idea. What happens when/if the platform stops working, closed down etc. Hence my I’m not going to even comment on this statement which is what I think you took the wrong way completely bud.

2497 posts Bird is the word..
  • Located in United States
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
  • Has been part of the Envato Community for over 7 years
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jonathan01
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Don’t get me wrong btw – I don’t agree with any of this :)

2497 posts Bird is the word..
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  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
  • Has been part of the Envato Community for over 7 years
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jonathan01
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They don’t see it like this – customer buys license, gives access to an installer – that’s what 99% of people who buy here do now, you just don’t see it in the checkout process etc. as it’s an outside contractor.

2497 posts Bird is the word..
  • Located in United States
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
  • Has been part of the Envato Community for over 7 years
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jonathan01
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Where in the terms does it say we allow Envato to sell services on our products on another website? The current terms is specifically related to micro stock selling. I know this is a ‘test’ but it has basically been implemented, and the survey suggests it’s going to stay that way.

The issue is we are ‘selling’ on their platform – therefore their house, their rules. They don’t need to specify this bit in their policies as it’s nothing to do with selling your item but rather part of their service and platform which adapts overtime. You will never control a 3rd party platform.

2497 posts Bird is the word..
  • Located in United States
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
  • Has been part of the Envato Community for over 7 years
+8 more
jonathan01
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No – you don’t get an email builder it uses a ‘service’ or platform you get access to… I’m not going to even comment on this.

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