He he – yep, I just did a little bit of poking around and found several articles/posts recommending condensers for choirs for the very reason that everybody mentioned – more sensitivity and less gain needed on the board. I’m used to micing very loud rock bands where this is not an issue , and in fact you desire less sensitivity because of bleed from other instruments, but of course the source is a lot closer to the mics in this case.
That said, all the articles I looked at were for recording choirs and not amplification. I did read some recommendations for omni mics for recording, but in the live situation if there’s an audience wouldn’t that pick up a lot of undesired noise?
I still stand by the SM57 being a good choice for live acoustic guitars, but again in this case you’d have the mic a lot closer to the source.
I realize that you’re looking for condensor mics, but since you’re doing live amplification and not necessarily studio recording (I think from the description) I’d be tempted to recommend a pair of Shure SM57 dynamic microphones. For live acoustic guitars these are great, and although I’ve never amplified a choir I’ve seen them used for this application. My gut feeling tells me they would be better than the condensers regarding ambient noise and feedback. Also, they’re $100 USD per microphone, so you’d be saving half or more over the Rodes or Oktavas. If it turns out you didn’t like them, you could probably get nearly the full price back for them on eBay or elsewhere.
I have used the NT5s for studio recording. At that price those are very good mics for recording acoustic guitar with a matched pair, though I found them to be a bit too dark for my tastes and eventually sold them. Disclaimer – I was using a terrible pre at the time, so I’m actually wishing now that I could try them again with a preamp I like better.
Good luck with your selection!
That’s a very well deserved accomplishment – nice (and really quick) work!
The last time we had a thread making fun of the clapping, whistling, ukulele songs I took notes, then clapped, whistled, and played the ukulele on my very next AudioJungle track. Now it’s just a few weeks away from being my all time best seller (and not just on AudioJungle).
It might not be Beethoven but it plays pretty well behind all kinds of video presentations. As a friend of mine put it:
Clapping – a feeling of crowd participation. Whistling – an informal and friendly setting. Ukulele – a laid back, comfortable, easy feel.
Seems like the kind of things many advertisers may want to evoke, maybe?
Well, as always there are multiple hues to complex issues . I should probably clarify that the 30% I quoted was not just federal income tax (which is 25% for the last dollar I earn, 15% from 17K to 69K, and 10% below 17K for 2011) but state tax (9% in Oregon over a certain amount I can’t recall), FICA and Medicare (4.2% and 1.45%, respectively). I think this would all add up to more than 30%, but there are several deductions that you can take for mortgage interest, 401(k) contributions, etc.
I didn’t include property tax (we have a small house so it’s around $1500 annually) in my estimate, though. Oregon doesn’t have sales tax, but it’s one of the few states that doesn’t – California and Washington, for instance, pay about 9% if I remember right.
As far as insurance goes, if I had to pay for it all myself the last time I looked (several years ago) the absolute cheapest coverage I could get for my family, which was basically catastrophic coverage, was around $600/month. To get the same insurance I have through work – not the greatest – I believe it would be more along the lines of $1200 – $1500. One of the many tragic results of this is that entrepreneurship (which the US traditionally prides itself on) is discouraged because people can’t quit their day jobs in order to keep their insurance.
Our state universities (University of Oregon and Oregon State University) run around $10,000 per year currently in undergraduate resident tuition costs alone (going full time at 17 credits). This doesn’t include housing, food, books, etc. If you want to come here from out of state the tuition triples. So really it’s past the point where average wage earners can send their kids even to a state college without them graduating with buckets of debt right out of the gate. Private universities are far far more. Lewis and Clark college (down the street from me) is 40,000 / year in undergraduate tuition.
I love the US to death, especially where I live in Portland, and will never live anywhere else, but I also have to admit that we have more than a few issues to work out if we’re planning on staying competitive with the rest of the world in the coming years .
I’d have to look at my tax return from last year to be sure, but strictly looking at stock sales (which I report as small business income separate from my day job) I probably didn’t pay anywhere near 50% in taxes, most likely more like 20-30%. Part of this is that the rate is not as high but also because I was able to deduct some sizeable purchases .
I know I pay about 30% to various taxes for my day job earnings.
Not to start a political firestorm, but I would pay higher taxes in an instant for good universal health care coverage or low cost of higher education. There’s a lot of stupidity and misinformation going around right now in the US over these issues. Meanwhile, I’m mostly covered by my day job’s insurance and consider myself lucky to be able to insure myself and my family at about $400/month (without work coverage it would easily exceed $1000), along with setting $500/month aside for eventual college tuition for my daughter (she’s 8 now, and by many estimates that actually won’t be enough to cover it by the time she’s 18). Um, sorry – I won’t rant any further The people who are calling for lower taxes have their reasons as well – I guess things have to be paid for one way or another.
But regarding the more important issue:
It really depends on the quality of the beer. A good pint of Oregon microbrew could cost 6 USD or more and be worth every penny. If you’re just getting something like a Widmer Hefeweizen it could be 4 – 5 USD a pint. PBR , Bud Light, Coors, etc might be 3 USD a pint, but what would be the point? Oh shoot, now I’m really asking for it…
I know this thread is really old at this point, but in case you haven’t decided on an interface yet…
I thought I’d throw this out because my obsession for acquiring good monitors will be coming full circle in a couple of weeks and now I have a new set of gear to drool over in the quest for the best stereo chain I can muster.
If price really is no object – have you thought about getting a dedicated A/D D/A converter and using outboard pres? At the moment I’m looking at stuff by Lynx – the conversion is supposed to be a step up even from RME and it’s not too much more expensive (well, until you add in the price of preamps). Depending on how many channels you need there’s the Aurora series (16 and 8 channels), for which you can buy an expansion card for either FW or USB connectivity. I’m also looking at the Lynx Hilo, though I believe that’s USB only and only 2 channels.
Aurora 8 is about 2K and another $500 for FW. And then you can get an API rack and fill it with up to 10 preamps at $1000 a pop . But you’d have a pretty excellent setup at that point. And obviously you can get really good pres for cheaper than that.http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Aurora8/ http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Aurora8FW/
To come clean, I have absolutely no experience with Lynx or RME for that matter – I’m just starting to research this myself.
Congratulations on the 300!
Congratulations, Jon! By all accounts those are awesome speakers, and if you treated your room at the same time I’m assuming there’s been a major improvement.
I’m going to pull the trigger next week and have narrowed it down between the AX7 and the KH120 , which are exactly the same price (and yes, my gear budget will be completely overextended as well :)). The 7” speaker is the big advantage on the Adam side, though I am really liking the specs and reviews of the Neumann even though it’s a 5.5”.
Have fun with those speakers !
I am grateful for this thread – I thought I was bad but it sounds like I’m not alone… I’m checking my stats constantly, and it’s gotten worse since I became iPhone enabled last year. On the plus side it makes boring work meetings much more interesting (I’m sure present and future employers don’t check this site, right?)