Posts by graphic4444

and remember it’s not just about AE… for example I’m still using earlier versions of DW, FW and Flash since I like those better than the CS6 versions… there’s no big critical functionality jumps this last few years in the adobe lineup that benefits me… possibly new 3d integration in ae is noteworthy moving forward.. i suppose it depends on individual needs… the forum posts around the internet on other forums, including the OP’s link, are almost universally negative about this, however.

I’m slow to change, and it’s benefited me… for example I’m Not using windows 8 and I’m Not gonna subscribe to the “cloud”... even that upgrade to CS6, felt note all the problems, missing functions, not smooth (forgot the details) about how some CS4 projects don’t work/render properly when opened in CS6. Change and bright new shiny objects are usually better for the sellers, than buyers, including software… that’s why skipping a release cycle is often a good idea, for cost/troubleshooting issues.

agree panda-bear…

You guys should Really all go read this well written article (thx MSFX):

To quote the author, and I agree, “Quite frankly, CS6 is probably the last version of Creative Suite most people will need for the next 5 years. “

It does a perfect job of explaining, hey now that there’s not any major innovation coming out anymore from adobe (witness the very modest changes from CS4 to CS6, even fewer from CS5 to CS6, not just ae but I mean DW/FW/PS), the innovation curve is dying, so adbe needs to switch gears to get people on monthly payment plans, at our detriment.

I believe the correct answer is, buy CS6 suite, and be happy with that for a few years. If in a few years’ time there’s huge mondo changes in AE (I doubt it) or other programs, then maybe do the wallet-sucking each month sub plan… but for me it’s definitely no way in heck. I like to own my software, not pay a big monthly bill for the rest of my life.

Marketing genius? yep. Good for us creative types? no way. (unless you’re in a design company and need to collaborate on a cloud environment i guess i could see a benefit)

I highly recommend that anyone who doesn’t own the CS6 master collection (or whatever you need from it), buy the perpetual/lifetime regular license now, so you Own the software for years ahead to use. Although they claim it’ll be on sale for a long time, I think adobe will very likely stop selling it soon as possible – so buy it now and get lifetime use of it ,before they’re all sold out.

i think a subscription only model with a hand in your wallet each month sucks. I like to own my software, not pay monthly rental fees. this blows.

I personally hate subscriptions, because a) it’s a continual drain on your wallet, like rent/electricity/mortgage and b) you can almost Bet they’ll igradually increase the price over time, like cable tv companies and all other subscription plans do.

They will get you “hooked” at the $49/month rate, then after a year or two it becomes $69/month, than $89 a month, then $119 a month, then $149/month, and more. I first predicted the subscription-only model 2 years ago on the forums here, mark my words now that it’s in place they’ll try and raise rates over time.

Then you are paying like $1600/year for adobe software access, and will think that’s normal. It’s Not. Think about it. For guys like me, I skipped releases, and bought every other release, for just what I needed, like windows, I skipped vista and win8, using instead xp and win7. By Forcing you to pay a monthly bill, they are conditioning you to think that’s normal—you can see on forums why hundreds of negative comments about this everywhere you look.

I’d rather buy and Own my software, updating when I feel like it, not having a hand in my wallet sucking money out every single damn month. That’s horrible. Just like here—if there were some subscription plan I’d not join, or join for a bit then cancel… by having all the content here “a la carte”, I like it that way since I buy what I want When I want, on my terms… not a continous vacuuming out my wallet.

Just How Many monthly bills do you want in your life, sucking away all your money? It’s a no no.

Brilliant insights in this article, someone else posted it in another thread here (thx MSFX):

Point is there’s not much more innovation coming, so they want to force subscriptions to keep making money off of you all. I am NOT going to subscribe and will use CS6 for the next 4-5 years.

wow that sucks. like windows o/s, I usually skip a version and buy every other year. no way I’m shelling out $840/year for adoughbe stuff. I’ll stick with what I’ve got for the next few years at least.

Of course you realize they’ll jack up the monthly rates over time as well, most likely in a couple years you’ll be spending $129/month+ or $1-$2k/year for access to their software. Let’s not drink the koolaid, we should all just stick with our (up to) CS6 software for the years ahead.

flashedge said
Adobe, you suck at everything. Macromedia was way cooler and trustworthier.

+1million

I use fireworks daily. well it hasn’t changed much in years anyways, from cs3 to 6, so I’ll just keep using it. The good news is, remember you can use favorite software for many years; unlike operating systems that need every-few-year updates for faster hardware, things like FW, Flash and DW are fine just the way they are.

Don’t need to buy into the “gotta have the latest release” koolaid that software vendors are peddling. Adbe buys and kills a lot of good software, unfortunately (like ultrakey, and there was some good music program too they bought and killed).

PS is slow and clunky, FW is fast and works great for images, have used for a decade+ and will keep using for decades ahead, even if it’s not updated.

congratulations! kids are great

i hope it gets restored for sale here, I’ll buy it just for the blue notes w/video overlay alone, which is great looking motion gfx

it would be good to track IP addresses too, to see if there’s a common criminal element among chargebacks from individuals who start multiple buyer accounts. track IP addresses, is smart, to ban “serial refunders”