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For example Italy get each year huge fines for laws that the local government failed to implement for various reasons.
And again, Italy is the only EU member who failed to complete by 1 January 2015 the final hurdle for the implementation of the new 2015 EU-wide VAT rules on sales of electronic, broadcast and telecoms services to consumers. The Italian government had agreed on the proposed decree, but the necessary Parliamentary Committee has not yet reviewed it. :)

The other 27 EU member states have fully ratified their legislation.

well, I hope envato recognize Italy laws and don’t force VAT upon buyers from this country since this will be illegal.

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I think there is some misconception on how EU works.

Now this may get strange but this is how it works. Read carefully.

European laws (those created by the European institutions) do not become laws by default but need to be implemented by each European country locally.

So side A of the coin say that Europe doesn’t command on local governments. They just give directions to follow so that the whole community supposedly profits from these directives.

But here it gets strange because at the same time those ARE laws that need to be respected but till the country members don’t implement them, while citizen or business of that country don’t need to respect them, who get punished is the country as whole.

Side B of the coin is that if the member countries don’t implement or respect the laws then EU institutions fine (sanction) the country that did not implement the law as requested by EU. For example Italy get each year huge fines for laws that the local government failed to implement for various reasons.

Now you should ask yourself if this VAT law addition that relates to this marketplace, had been implemented locally by the country members and where. I don’t have the answer to this if one wonders :)

Additionally on this topic as somewhat a curiosity but unfortunately is more serious.

  • So EU said “this stuff needs to be made like this”
  • local country doesn’t care about what EU said
  • Citizen of this country gets damaged in some way because what EU said was not implemented.
  • Citizen then sue his own country and most of the time wins compensation and the country need to pay him.
  • Off course the money of a country are the money of the people that paid the taxes, so guess who pay in the end the decision of local politicians

A concrete example are prisons. Eu say, an inmate needs a certain space in his cell, a maximum number of other inmates that stay with him in that cell and he also needs a window of a certain size. The country just pack the triple of inmates in small cells, window is not of the required size. When the inmate get out he sue the country and wins money. There is a whole lawyer business behind this (as they get a good percentage of the money) (I’m not making this up)

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Yes, looks like is resolved :D

I’ve received the mail that tells when the earnings will be send. I’ve also got an answer from support that said the issue is fixed :)

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doru
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what? :D

too soon?

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@doru Quality control? Are you(actually they) kidding me? Right now, on codecanyon landing page in the new php scripts tab(ajax one) there are 2 scripts with serious XSS exploits(i know because i messed up their demos, and these are exactly just the two scripts i tested, i am sure i can find exploits for most of them if i struggle). So where’s the quality control a buyer is paying for?

regardless of envato claims,

will be great if you will can privately inform the author about this issue so he can fix this. Is the white hacker philosophy :)

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are you planning something and you are checking the risks :D ?

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ok found it:

the buyer pay 20% because:

Buyer Fee: When you ‘buy’ an item you’re also paying a price for the services you get from Envato like 24/7 buyer support, fraud protection, item quality control and other related buyer services.

note that buy is not buy but is ‘buy’. get it? is not quite buy as we all think what buy is.

anyway, buyer pay 20% for 24/7 buyer support (which is actually Monday to Friday and takes up to a week to answer), fraud protection (no idea what this fraud protection is), item quality control (means the people who review the items) and other related buyer services (not defined)

So envato is not paid by the buyer for the item but for the services above.

(Is just me or that terms and legal agreements page change like two times a day? because each time I’m checking it I found some new stuff. I mean, we should get informed when new stuff is added and what those new additions are)

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Good morning. I noticed that the item price (flyer) appears now $4.80 in the Statement in the author’s area. Before appeared $6 Does anyone know why? Does it have to do with VAT?

The $4.80 is the money that the buyer directly gives you for the item. After you’ve got that money you take a percentage out and you give it to envato.

This means you are directly selling to the buyer and envato is just paid by you to use their website to sell the item.

envato also ask for money from the buyer to be allowed to purchase the item from you (probably). Maybe the buyer pay a fee to have the possibility to buy from you. Why the buyer pay 20% of the item price is not clear.

let me check the terms for this 20% part. be right back

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