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digitalscience says


you’ll give me a bear? Sounds awesome haha.. and I’ll have a beer with u too :) but I’d like to add I don’t want a riot, we just want to make cool stuff and sell them! So I think the louder the collective voice, the easier it will be to be heard.
I’m also quite zen these days.

balance and harmony = happy marketplace :D

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digitalscience says

I never been to Slovenia but handling bears as gifts when it comes to showing gratitude does somehow sound right.. I mean I would have totally believed it. ;)
we’ll ride our Slovenian bears into the battle for a better marketplace :D
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Keep in mind Envato, we have an agreement when we sign up, we provide the stock, Envato provides the platform to sell on and you receive commission per sale. If we ask for improvements which are reasonable and requested by many and you change the platform to make it harder to get exposure – then you should expect a riot.
Now this is perfectly sad in fact so well sad that if you ever visit Slovenia you have a bear from me :) The only problem is that agreement does not protect us in this manor our saying on the platform for which we do pay and pay quite a lot, but our voices hit to many walls :)

you’ll give me a bear? Sounds awesome haha.. and I’ll have a beer with u too :) but I’d like to add I don’t want a riot, we just want to make cool stuff and sell them! So I think the louder the collective voice, the easier it will be to be heard.

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digitalscience says

@digitalscience @Anps I am going to repeat what I said a dozen of times already on the same topic: quantity does not equal quality. There must be some other way to distinguish multi-purpose themes from “regular” ones, instead of unjustifiably raising the price of those huge themes, of which many are actually lacking on quality and could be considered as bloatware.http://themeforest.net/forums/thread/price-changes-across-the-marketplaces/138218?page=25#

Nope.. we’re talking about particular themes that sell well… not all multi-purpose themes. If particular themes are selling 3 times as much as their nearest competitors, then a small increase is logical – they’ll make more in turnover and they’ll still be ahead of the competition, but overall it creates healthier competition. I think Envato’s strategy is they prefer to sell many copies of one theme that they trust, than many varied themes they’re not sure about – but then so many customers end up with a website that looks similar so that’s counter-productive for buyers and authors – but I guess that’s just a sign of the times.

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digitalscience says

This is pure logic…. that every store does when demand goes up for something they raise the price to those type’s of products not the whole store and this is the only way to keep things competitive.

Good points, but Envato would know this already. Some themes were selling 1000’s of copies a month – that is an indication that their price can be increased. Not to mention how much content and value is in those themes, they deserved an increase, and it would increase turnover.

Increasing all themes by the same amount is counter productive, the only thing that happens is the same themes selling 1000’s of copies a month make more per sale, and standard themes look less attractive in value.

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digitalscience says

I just wanted to add to the “home page paranoia” that since the begining of August sales are very good a lot better then in July and I haven’t released anything new….

I think the “home page paranoia” is warranted considering we’ve been asking for better home page exposure for years, and then when the homepage is finally “enhanced” we get visible links which were important to exposure “hidden” in a dodgy drop down, which was not clearly labelled and without a hand cursor roll over. One click is better than two click, no hand cursor is bad for click rate – that’s logical.

Envato is a big company with 200 employees – do we not think they’d check this stuff before hand? do we honestly think their development team would launch an update without a hand cursor to 1000’s of world class front end developers? And all this on the back of news of scaling up the Elite program… whether intentional or not, Envato should play smarter than that.

Keep in mind Envato, we have an agreement when we sign up, we provide the stock, Envato provides the platform to sell on and you receive commission per sale. If we ask for improvements which are reasonable and requested by many and you change the platform to make it harder to get exposure – then you should expect a riot.

But I’m glad that you have now clearly labelled it as “All Categories” and added the hand cursor back – so we’re making progress. But it still doesn’t excuse why we should point out the obvious. Some of us will be watching closely to the next couple of updates, so please don’t let us down – afterall all we want is a better marketplace for the community. Play smart and build a sustainable ecosystem, because it will pay off in the long term.

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digitalscience says


Inspiration to build amazing things? After $5 milion you get a MacBook ? :O I think that someone who earned $5 milion has already a MacBook if they want one… I liked the previous rewards better. I am glad I have passed the $500k mark just few days before the new rewards were anounced.

P.S The website look very good ;)

Ah but it’s not just ANY Macbook – the stock Apple log will be replaced with an Envato one. So it will be an Envato branded MacBook! I haven’t decided on which one yet, I though Air for portability, maybe MBP for max grunt, but trust me this will be SPECIAL :)

For the record that comment wasn’t from me.. it was from mpc – see previous page. Please don’t quote me on things I didn’t type ;)

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digitalscience says

Keeping the homepage like it is now will help that small group authors with popular items to quickly reach $25 mil lol… :)

Indeed, I think this will become more and more obvious to authors. Effectively Envato is taking potential sales from the bottom authors and giving them to top authors – which is unethical considering that will affect peoples incomes, families and motivation to succeed here.

Unfortunately it appears that greed and power has taken over – more is never enough. Envato was built by the community with our own hands (or mouse clicks), it was not about the money in the beginning – it was about doing what we loved doing – being creative, and when you follow your passion success naturally follows – that’s how it should work here. Envato should let the site grow on it’s own – you will still get to your 25 mil mark / space launch, just slower.. why risk it all to get there sooner and destroy the community spirit and competition in the process – the victory in the end won’t taste as sweet. Envato you know that’s the truth, listen to your intuition – it already knows what is the right thing to do.

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digitalscience says

We are elite authors but after homepage changes we now have sales like you (like regular author), 5-6 sales and less per day. We lost hundreds of dollars. In weekends we have 0 sales now (before changes was 1-5).

We never have 0 sales per day before homepage changes for latest 3 years.

We even have new item released today for WordPress, but sales is very bad because nobody see New items now.

By Google Analytics stats I see that our new theme that now on Homepage checked around 900 users for all day. Usualy (before) in working days we got 1500-2000 users to item from homepage.

And the main problem that only 180 users from this count is users who clicked item on homepage!. All other users found item from category (because it on first page after release).

Themeforest have thousands of visitors per day and most of all is homepage visitors, and only 180 people clicked WordPress (most popular category) new item? This is crazy, this is not as it was before.

Yup, it’s good for you to mention this and that you’re looking at actual data and have a new item on the home page – a lot of authors here are guessing how this change impacts sales or listening to what Envato says as reassurance that everything is fine, but as we will start to see the reality is reduced exposure for new items. One click is better than two click, visible links are better than hidden links – its logical.

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digitalscience says

For premium templates and more expensive products may have been a good option, but for cheap products I’m not so sure. The increase appears to have been exaggerated in some cases:

$1 to $2 = increase of 100%
$2 to $3 = increase of 50%
$3 to $4 = increase of 33,3%
$4 to $5 = increase of 25%
$5 to $6 = increase of 20%
$6 to $7 = increase of 16,6%
....
$10 to $11 = increase of 10%
....
$15 to $16 = increase of 6,6%
...
$45 to $48 = increase of 6,6%

Bingo… if we use our logic here, the percentage increases should have been the other way around for a more fair competitive environment considering the volume of sales on some higher priced items, but personally I think it was the higher priced items which needed a slight increase, the rest of the library was competitively priced. But Envato should know how it works, so this is done on purpose obviously for a specific end result.

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