Posts by digitalscience

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  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
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digitalscience says

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4795 posts Interactive Design
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
  • Interviewed on an Envato blog
  • Made it to the Authors' Hall of Fame
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digitalscience says

Zombocom inspired me to learn Flash – true story

4795 posts Interactive Design
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
  • Interviewed on an Envato blog
  • Made it to the Authors' Hall of Fame
+8 more
digitalscience says

Envato buyers look for two things in my opnion

1) High quality 2) Value for money … if authors get both right, then $$$$ ;)

4795 posts Interactive Design
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
  • Interviewed on an Envato blog
  • Made it to the Authors' Hall of Fame
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digitalscience says

When I first joined back in 2007, the site promoted itself as a place to “buy and sell” Flash.. and on signing up and looking at how payments worked, it was clear that Envato “takes a percentage cut” from our sales, ie earns commission. The site itself was platform to sell, but Envato was the seller… authors had a part to play in selling, but it was minimal then, I don’t think there was even a comment facility. Basically I just made a file, uploaded it.. and magically it was making money – so I wasn’t selling it, someone else (Envato) was.. because they had 1) built the platform, 2) are attracting buyers… so I don’t know where this idea of authors being seller comes from ;) Yes we might be “selling” here but indirectly – there is a big difference between direct and indirect selling.

Also there is a lot of references that this is a “global marketplace”.. actually every website online is global and this doesn’t mean anything. The only thing global about this site is the community and some staff, but at the end of the day this is an Australian based company – who started back in 2006 with a platform, with no stock – and encouraged authors to sign up with opportunities to make money online. Authors made the stock, Envato sold it – that’s how it worked, let’s not forget :)

4795 posts Interactive Design
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
  • Interviewed on an Envato blog
  • Made it to the Authors' Hall of Fame
+8 more
digitalscience says

Ah no.. I’ve lost quite a few too, probably very old accounts from years back.

4795 posts Interactive Design
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
  • Interviewed on an Envato blog
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digitalscience says



That’s the problem.. Envato says (official statement via taxinfo@envato.com ) that we all are sellers from beginning. So all EU authors can be in problems now because of past VAT..
Can you post the full quote from the message you’ve got from them where they say this?

Here is important part:

The author is still the ‘seller’ in the sense that there is a license from the author to the buyer, the author still takes responsibility for the content they are licensing, author income is the item price less author fee and so on.

Even if authors wanted to add VAT in the past (if the felt the were required too) we couldn’t because we can’t change the prices, or know what country our buyers are from.. therefore adding VAT is the responsibility of Envato… The “seller” is a loose term.. authors are indirect sellers, and Envato are direct sellers.

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  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
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digitalscience says

Here is everything described: http://themeforest.net/legal/market

I think that everything is OK and no one needs to be afraid. Envato is doing everything they can to simplify the entire sales process.

Maybe, just words like seller and buyer have been misunderstood / or taken out of context :)

Indeed I would say authors are indirectly selling, as there is a go-between (Envato) between author and customer. We don’t have power over what get’s approved for sale, the pricing of our items, whether we can issue refunds or even see buyer contact details. The system is controlled so we have limited info on buyers. If we were selling direct, we would have full control, no go-between, then sure we’d be liable to pay VAT.

4795 posts Interactive Design
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
  • Interviewed on an Envato blog
  • Made it to the Authors' Hall of Fame
+8 more
digitalscience says



Here is an article from 2004 on the VAT state back then: http://articles.softwaremarketingresource.com/2004/04/vat-how-ecommerce-companies-are-coping.html
Yeh but those are EU / US companies.. Envato is Australian based and AUS only recently being asked to comply.. similar to my country.
If that were true, then that would only help if envato would declare itself as the seller, instead of saying the authors are the direct sellers, who might as well come from EU / US or whereever else this VAT law has applied.

Where does it say authors are the seller in the TOS? All I see is this definition which sounds like we are suppliers, providing stock on a marketplace.

Author: a Member who makes items available for sale on Envato Market.
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digitalscience says

Here is an article from 2004 on the VAT state back then: http://articles.softwaremarketingresource.com/2004/04/vat-how-ecommerce-companies-are-coping.html

Yeh but those are EU / US companies.. Envato is Australian based and AUS only recently being asked to comply.. similar to my country.

4795 posts Interactive Design
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
  • Interviewed on an Envato blog
  • Made it to the Authors' Hall of Fame
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digitalscience says


If this system is from beginning as they say it is they pay (in my opinion) far less taxes. So… if they say “ok, ok we are the sellers” then envato is in violation and the top dogs go by by for a lot of years or pay humangus fines which could bring envato to there knees. In the other case we all go by by and again envato goes down.

Yeah! +1

I don’t care about future VAT… I care about “past” VAT which should be paid.

So what are you guys implying.. authors might have to pay back VAT from the beginning of time? That’s crazy, that could financial end people! Look I think this is a new law, they’re doing it in my country too with on-line martketplaces, the law starts from now on… e-commerce was kinda a free tax zone, now it’s become more regulated and governments want more control, they’re not going to go back in time.

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