^ I thought that’s what going on here already. The only difference is we do the same by sharing individual opinion. I afraid both of us deserve Mr.Obvious badge.
Haha ya but that’s what we did for the last proposal, and we still not satisfied with the new proposal. What I’m saying is authors need to somehow come up with one single proposal that’s reasonable, and say “hey Envato, this is what we want.. do you agree?” I vote Dream-Theme for captain!
I think authors need to collectively come up with an author proposal and present to Envato, probably best if it was agreed on by Elites since they have more experience.
onioneye saidWow, I’ve seen this said a lot of ways, but this is perfect! This is exactly the issue at the moment with the proposals.
The cost of updating older themes currently outweighs the financial benefits of doing so, and by not solving this problem with this change, Envato is ignoring a fundamental problem on the market, that now favors quantity of items instead of quality, which of course reduces the quality of the whole marketplace, and thus the customer satisfaction as well.
+1 Yup it makes sense to charge for updates… themes are only sold for a few dollars, so support and updates should be limited for I’d say 1 year would be reasonable. After which, customers need to extend updates if they need to with a fee or they can choose an update extension plan before purchasing the theme.
digitalscience said1+ Yes. This is what i want from the new system. Buyer purchase a theme + support (it can be optional) + item updates for a year then it must be extended with a small fee.
What about this… when a customer buys a theme, included in the price is a free subscription to support and updates for 1 year. After a year, if they wish to update their theme, they have to renew their subscription and pay a small fee.
Of course not! The only advantage to buy on Envato is to get lifetime and free updates and good themes too. You can not announce lifetime and free updates to sell and change the rules later. I do not know that way of doing business! What you are saying is a membership club business model and not today’s business model. If buyers want to go to a membership club, they have lots of themes providers that have that business model and pick one of them… and not buy here.My 2 cents.
Lifetime updates are not endorsed or regulated by Envato – that’s just what some authors are promoting as a selling point, but it’s not realistic since the author is implying he’ll provide updates for as long as he lives – and that’s not really reassuring for buyers. Free updates are not really feasible for authors either, for example the version of some top themes 2 years ago are not exactly the same themes today due to continuous updates ie more features, more plugins added, more value added – so it would make sense that buyers should pay a little extra for updates after a certain time frame, since more value is being added to the product. Similar to upgrading a phone contract, you use a phone for a year or so and then you extend you subscription and get an upgrade.
Keep in mind authors only make a tiny fraction of profit per sale – so lets say customers get free updates for say 6 months or a year… and after this they’ll need to extended their update subscription if they need to, and then the author can then receive some compensation for the time and effort spent.
The reason why the rules are changing, is because there wasn’t any official rules regarding support, it was all based on what authors were advertising on their pages, but that’s not regulated by Envato.. with proper regulation comes better reassurance for buyers when they make purchases and they’ll know exactly what to expect when it comes to support and updates – so it’s a good thing!
I think many are correct, Envato is monetizing the wrong thing… support is something most of us were doing for free anyways, and Envato will just squeeze out some extra money from thin air.
We are selling products here, not our time (hours) – so Envato should only make money on things like updates which is something additional to the product that can be sold. This is not Envato Studio
Anyone have this trend? week started gradually as usual and peaking midweek but sharp drop thursday.. no sales in 12hrs.. did Envato change something?