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I had a couple of items trending several times over the last year. It is only After one of them was trending for at least the 10th time that I got a trending bed. So I think it’s to do with how many times you achieve trending, or how many times within a certain period of time you achieve it.

My guess :)

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One major factor missing in your calculations are taxes! At that rate of earnings taxes can easily become 30 to 40% in many Western countries. And I would assume that if you really want to make a living of this at some point you will need to start thinking about taxes. I’m sure that sevenstyles, with the massive earning he achieves, will pass this through the tax authorities.

If you take that into account and that sevenstyles is an alien I think it is close to impossible to make a decent living in a western country of what you earn at GR.

Of course if you generate the same sort of earning in a lower wage country and if you can get away without paying taxes then you are probably in a position to live nicely by just working on graphic River.

The big money however is over at Theme Forest!

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To add to Pre-Press’ point: I don’t want a customer who buys $1 presentations or stationery. Obviously he’s out for a cheapo or really is one of the few who really don’t see the difference.

Imagine the hell one of these buyers could raise you.

The other day I got all sorts of back and forth because a buyer purchased my PSD template and couldn’t edit them in Word. I would have preferred him to buy from someone else – I’m sure he would have gone for a $1 template and I’d have been glad if he did.

Cheapo sellers and buyers can all huddle up together in a corner at GR and I’ll be all the happier.

I wouldn’t say this if many of our items were actually fairly priced. But since we all sell weeks of work for $10, there’s not really any underpricing us – we’re rock bottom already. Only total rubbish could be sold any chepaer :)

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This is really great for all presentation and add-on offers – and as such for the community as a whole. Thumbs up!

One other category I’d like to see this in is stationary. There are items which are basically three letterheads and others which are entire corporate brands and they are priced yhe same.

There are authors who just copy and paste the exact same contents in between differing letterheads and sell them as corporate IDs. Again they are all priced the exact same as other elaborate corporate IDs with lots of attention to detail, developed from scratch, and lots of added brand assets.

I think that it’s very much along the same lines as presentations. There are huge differences in quality and quantity of assets in the product, yet all are priced the same. I see big potential here for authors to create really elaborate items and get a decent remuneration out of it, or create simpler quickies and be able to sell them at more competitive prices.

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i personally don’t know what is great about this, self-pricing is just a way for GR to pull down the prices and to look more attractive for buyers , but who cares if authors are dying in the end out of it?! the consequence is definitely guaranteed, in some categories some people will opt for lower prices as let’s face it some customers or buyers do not manage to see what is the difference between a good and a bad item and between an item created in 2 hours and one that took way much more time, effort and skills. The fact of the matter is that this is also bringing really huge inequality to the table as , unless guys play the game by the rules and respect each other, a lot of guys belonging to some countries in which cost of life and currency are lower, will be able to take down substantially the prices and make sure that they sell a lot when those for whose this is already much more difficult will definitely die in the kerb. i guess we can all say thank you to GR and envato for making us die and earn less and less when we do the utmost to build their fame and make them earn a lot of money, because this is what this is all about … . I am very happy for a lot of u guys if u believe that u earn too much money already , u should just keep in mind that this is not what happens to a great majority of us!

I’m not at all against lower/upper cut for price ranges. But I also think that reviewers are often inconsistent in pricing. This would go away

To comment your points

Underpricing: I think many items are already hopelessly underpriced. If somebody wants to go ahead and sell a full-blown stationery item, or a full-blown presentation for one dollar, then that’s cool with me. Even in the Lowest wage countries you can’t do two or three weeks of work for one dollar. The item must be rubbish. I’m not afraid of rubbish competition :)

Earning: we already earn way too little on elaborate items in any case. I don’t really think you can get any worse by self pricing. I think that poor authors would auto-eliminate themselves.: Again, as per above, if you sell a 300 slide PowerPoint presentation for one dollar, you eliminate yourself.

Envato: You are right, this is purely in their interest. As everything is. That’s capitalism. Only in this case I do think it’s a good idea.

Self pricing globally: there are other markets which are fully self priced. I see it full of quality items at reasonable prices, and I see those items and authors flourish. I don’t see any rubbish items at one dollar having any success there.

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This is really great for all presentation and add-on offers – and as such for the community as a whole. Thumbs up!

One other category I’d like to see this in is stationary. There are items which are basically three letterheads and others which are entire corporate brands and they are priced yhe same.

There are authors who just copy and paste the exact same contents in between differing letterheads and sell them as corporate IDs. Again they are all priced the exact same as other elaborate corporate IDs with lots of attention to detail, developed from scratch, and lots of added brand assets.

I think that it’s very much along the same lines as presentations. There are huge differences in quality and quantity of assets in the product, yet all are priced the same. I see big potential here for authors to create really elaborate items and get a decent remuneration out of it, or create simpler quickies and be able to sell them at more competitive prices.

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“What an odd and unprofessional statement given that a Word and PDF are provided as well.”

My “you” wasn’t aimed at “You” specifically. Sorry if I was unclear.

I also didn’t look at your portfolio to see you are offering PDF and Word.

It was a theortical statement.

Let me re-phrase:

“If a seller on GR only produces an InDesign document I don’t think it’s good for his sales.”

As I said, I’m just talking out of my own expercience. I 4 years of selling here I was asked once for InDesign.

I have a dayjob where amongst other things I take care of the print designs for our company. I do it all in InDesign because it’s the right tool to use.

I don’t think my customers here are InDesign savvy, so I offer them formats they can use. To me that makes sense.

I will however run a test and add an InDesign version to my next item. If you are right and I sell twice as many brochures as I did on my current Photoshop items I’m happy to admit my mistake and invite you for a beer :)

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I totally agree with most comments that don’t recommend the use of Photoshop. Photoshop is a pixel based software, good for photo editing not for text and even worse to handle pages. Here is why you should use Indesign over Photoshop based on what has already been said and my own experience: - Indesign is vector based therefore the file will be LIGHTWEIGHT and SCALABLE without loss of quality. With Photoshop your file is going to be crazy large. - ID was made for creating magazine, brochure, books,... anything from 1 page to large amount of page making the life of designers much much easier, to say the least. - Photoshop is just not fit for this task and as someone said, your sales are going to be terrible. And that’s understandable because Photoshop just doesn’t have the right tools to build a magazine, or annual report in your case.

The bottom line is: learn Indesign! Honestly once you know how to use it, you’ll love it, it is so smooth, easy to use and time saving thanks to specific tools such as image placement, page masters, text editing and so on. Using Photoshop is going to be such a hassle, you’re gonna pull your hair off your head because Photoshop will not do the job properly.

Again, this is a short pros/cons and my own opinion based on my experience. Creating anything printed like a brochure, magazine, proposal or anything like it on Photoshop is UNPROFESSIONAL. Period.

Agreed on everything BUT your point on sales. I think it’s the contrary. InDesigns is as you state for Pros. Only Pros can use it. The majority of ( my ) customers are not Pros. They don’t use InDesign. They only know how to use Photoshop.

I’ve had more requests from customers asking got Word or PDF variations of my files than InDesign. In fact I think I’ve only been asked once for an InDesign version.

So you mat produce a superior document. But if your customers can’t use it that’s only good for your pride, not your sales.

Best option always is: offer as many formats as possible, then your customer can choose.

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Not ideal for print and also not a program designed to handle multiple pages. But some buyers will only have photoshop knowledge so will want a photoshop template. I’ve had quite a few people ask for a photoshop version of a magazine template.

That is the point. You can do Photoshop and have an additional InDesign file for better print quality. But you can’t do InDesign and no Photoshop conversion. Your sales will be much lower. Only Pros know how to use InDesign.

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I’m not sure what the band minimum is, but my argument is always: offer as much as you can.

So why the bare minimum may be EPS 10 and one variation, why don’t you offer many different file types and many different variations?

Always try to make it as easy as possible for your end customer to use the items.

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I think you are allowed to use the same file in three bundles.

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