Well this is a very interesting thread I missed the first time around.
There’s nothing inherently wrong with giving away your music, and there’s nothing inherently wrong with producing music for the sake of making money.
I think a lot of us wobble between writing stuff we want to write and writing stuff we know to be commercially viable. If one is the type of person that really loves making music and can’t compromise on what they write, then maybe the music business isn’t for them. I think that type of person should find a job or start a business in a related field so they can support themselves financially well they pursue their own musical interests.
If on the other hand the person is the other type, and can easily write and tailor music to whatever the client or markets needs, then that person should pursue music as a career. At the end of the day, the music business is still a business and you are selling a product. Most clients want a musical product that is familiar sounding, because they are trying to use your music to market their own products, and the marketing needs to be familiar enough for the average person to “get it,” or make a positive association. This is why commercial music moves in trends – everyone marketing something wants to be on the leading edge of what is popular and what is in vogue, it helps them sell their product. You can go overboard and produce something that sounds TOO generic…but another topic for another time.
Sure, there are other outlets besides marketing – film and game scoring for example – and maybe someone with true passion can break in there, but on a stock music site, you better believe it’s mostly about marketability.
I think the hardest thing for a composer or musician to comes to terms with is that their music might be good, it might even be great -hell, it might even be genius – but at the same time, it might also have zero commercial viability, at least in the current marketplace. In this case, giving it away for free starts to make a lot of sense, but what’s the harm in still trying to sell it? At the end of the day, it comes down to this: it’s your life and it’s your music, you should do whatever the hell you want with both.
Blue_Atom_Audio saidBest advice ever.
I really like your tracks, they’re very well put together I haven’t uploaded more frequently, my compositions aren’t more detailed or the production significantly better. The only thing I changed was that I have tried to learn what makes a piece of music more suitable for video. That is all that matters on here.
FYI having done some VST programming (and testing in a few DAWS), I can attest that Reaper has been the most buggy in terms of GUI and closing your plugin out. Stuff that works in other DAWS simply needs more finessing in Reaper. just my experience.
Nice guitars. Stainless steel frets? The thought of buying an expensive guitar always puts me off considering that I’d probably have to refret after a few years (I bend a lot).
I don’t even care if it doesn’t sell. I am going to write music that I would want to listen to myself. Or is that delusional? Should I just go commercial and write what will sell?
You should write what you want to write. If you force yourself to write stuff you don’t want to, there’s still a very good chance that it won’t sell, and then you’ve really wasted your time.
I think as composers all we can really do a lot of the time is write the kind of music we would want to listen to. Sometimes that sinks up with what others like or need, sometimes it doesn’t – music is so damn subjective. 100 different people can take the same formula and come out with a very similar sounding product, but you are the only one who can compose in your own unique particular style.
On the other hand, if someone is particularly adept at writing commercial stuff and can sell a lot of units – more power to them.
I’ve never been a huge fan of Native Instrument’s libraries. They are really, really good at building and maintaining a sampler (Kontakt) but as far as their sample libraries go they are usually so…meh. I guess their synth stuff sounds ok. That being said it looks like you are probably getting a $1000-$1500 worth of new Kontakt libraries for a $200 upgrade so…not too bad?
My strategy is to continue producing music to sell here along with my other musical efforts elsewhere mostly because I love writing music and I will be doing that anyway! So maybe I will get lucky here or if not I get a nice dinner paid for every now and then. But I would certainly not depend on this for primary income any time soon!You can be positive and believe in yourself and still have eyes wide open!
Exactly my friend! I think how much time you have to invest in audio production plays a huge role too. Personally, I don’t have as much time as I would like. Maybe one day when there is more time I can really “make a go of it.”
I admire everyone’s enthusiasm and passion, but the starter of the thread freely admits he’s probably not going to have much time to dedicate towards producing audio.
yeah, that’s what i tought also. i was thinking to make my own soundtracks for the projects and upload them here, the only problem is the lack of time. it is hard to go to job, work for videohive at night, and start making music .thanks a lot for the feedback
I’m guessing he’s probably not going to have enough time to put in 2-3 tracks per week and become an audiojungle powerhouse presence. From that perspective, IMO, he’s better off doing something else more lucrative. You must put in lots of effort yes…that is entirely my point.
AlumoAudio saidHey man, good for you if youtube is working out! It’s always great to see someone be successful! I just wouldn’t expect a new musician or youtuber to pull 500,000 views off of one video for (of all things) stock music, although I guess anything is possible if you just “do a little research.” I’m sure we’ve all done “a little research” when it comes to SOE and metadata.
IMO, youtube is garbage for promotion these days, especially ever since they removed video responses – unless you already have an established channel with lots of subscribers.
Also, I have to go ahead and disagree with this statement.
Of course, everyone’s milage may vary, but in my own case, I started up my channel when I started here just 2 years ago with 3 or 4 videos to begin with. The ‘video responses’ feature had already been removed by that point, but I did a bit of research on how to effectively use YouTube, such as correct tagging, descriptions, quality content to increase watch time, etc and essentially work it to my advantage. (And all of this info was found via a simple Google search believe it or not).
2 years on and I’ve built a healthy and steadily growing subscriber base, and have referred literally hundreds of new customers over to AJ and the Envato marketplaces. So to say ‘YouTube is garbage for promotion’ is basically throwing the baby out with the bathwater.The upshot is, do some research before putting any effort into anything. It’ll generally pay off
The one positive thing I’ll say that youtube has going for it is that since Google bought them out your videos will sometimes pop up on the front page of a Google search if your SEO is good.
Not trying to bring him down guys, but I’m not trying to blow sunshine up his butt either. The average user experience when it comes to selling stock music is that it’s a STRUGGLE. Most of us will have an average user experience, because most of us are average users. Again, it really comes down to what kind of music he’s trying to make and what his goals are. You can put in the hard work, effort, and marketing it takes to become a successful stock music author, his question was is it worth it in relation to other things one could be doing to make money, and realistically, for the average person, it probably isn’t. Stock music is like everything else in life; the distribution of success and money is more towards a few than towards the many and most people’s experiences will be less than ideal. If you go into the experience knowing this and you are willing to work really, really, really, hard, you can find success.