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TortoiseTree says


Great news and thanks for the interesting stats! From my market research I can estimate that we are probably number one in volume of sales, and will certainly be within 2 years or less if we’re not. As for the top 20 taking a quarter, I had also calculated something similar but I’m glad you confirmed it!
If we aren’t number one, then who do you suspect is?

We probably are number one, especially as I’ve taken into factor that there are probably more active online customers now than there were 8 years ago when AudioJungle didn’t exist (or even 5 years ago where other marketplaces still had higher traffic).

The only other place that I think beats AudioJungle is perhaps the licensing wing of a major label like EMI, Warner Bros. or Universal. That would be in total revenue, not necessarily in volume of sales and even so I ask myself for companies like Universal and Warner, that really make more from TV and film revenues, they must give themselves a very nice discount (or not pay at all) for to license their own music for TV and film.

There’s also the boutiques to take into account, but from shop talk I’ve heard that marketplaces like AudioJungle are really raking in the numbers and some clients find themselves now buying from here.

So yeah, I was just being conservative as my calculations are rather broad estimates but I am quite sure that AudioJungle is number one in sales volume right now.

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TortoiseTree says

Best of luck Carmen! Do tell us if you’re performing here in Sydney sometime soon!

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TortoiseTree says

Hey guys,

I just posted up a press release to the world that we’ve sold more than 1 million music licenses on AudioJungle since inception.

Kind of mind-boggling really! Just over a quarter of that have been licensed by the top 20 authors alone. And of course there’s a super duper long tail with over 7500 different authors with at least one sale on AJ.

Massive congratulations to all the amazing talented authors here in this community!

While I’m here, curious to know if anyone knows if there are bigger marketplaces by license volume? There are some that generate more revenue, though we’re slowly climbing there too – but I think we may be the largest by volume licensed.

Great news and thanks for the interesting stats! From my market research I can estimate that we are probably number one in volume of sales, and will certainly be within 2 years or less if we’re not. As for the top 20 taking a quarter, I had also calculated something similar but I’m glad you confirmed it!

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TortoiseTree says

I thought AMERICA STEER was kinda like ‘America beware, I’m coming for you’ because he is learning English America may be waiting a while by the looks of it

+100 I literally laughed my a** off at that comment! I thought America Steer meant the same thing.

“America may be waiting a while by the looks of it” = EPIC

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TortoiseTree says


@Greg: Yeah the slow sales trend seems to have affected nearly everybody, I have noticed though from the sales monitor that the ones mostly not reporting bad sales are relatively new authors (red ribbons) so I have feeling that either they have uploaded a large portfolio recently and are hence reaping all the new item sales or have been here such a short time that they have less to compare to and had it been april last year they might have made even more! @RoyaltyFreak: As for the exclusive thing, I thought one had to wait the 30 days if you make the switch? It would be cool to get a staff reply on this…

Many authors have said April was their best month ever. Is there really a slow sale trend on AJ? How many authors have reported having bad sales? 50? less? Out of 8000+ authors, I don’t think it is enough to establish a trend. My guess is that sales are up sitewide, as they are every month. AJ is still very much growing.

As for exclusivity: Exclusive to non-exclusive: 30 day waiting period Non-exclusive to exclusive: immediate

The best way to truly know will be when the popular files page gets updated when April ends, we’ll see how many sales the top authors have and from there we can quite realistically see if the trends are going down or not, as between those numbers that are published goes the lion’s share of sales.

Also, thanks for answering my question on the exclusivity!

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TortoiseTree says

End of February through the first two weeks of march were a high point but since then I’ve been on a 7 week downtrend with each week being worse than the last. I might need to make the jump to non-exclusive sooner than later if this trend continues.

+1 I’m pretty tempted too but will still wait things out for a couple more months to recover. I’ve seen a 60% decrease on expected sales and I still really wonder what is causing the hit, could it be that new site I see being advertised everywhere?

I’ve noticed it’s a lot of the more senior authors here with large portfolios reporting the slow trend hence it being statistically viable that there is something. This is mostly for the music category, I have noticed those still reporting healthy sales have strong sfx/logo and ident portfolios.

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TortoiseTree says

I totally feel you on the slow sales trend, apparently not for everybody, but it has been very noticeable for me this month too.

@Greg: Yeah the slow sales trend seems to have affected nearly everybody, I have noticed though from the sales monitor that the ones mostly not reporting bad sales are relatively new authors (red ribbons) so I have feeling that either they have uploaded a large portfolio recently and are hence reaping all the new item sales or have been here such a short time that they have less to compare to and had it been april last year they might have made even more!

@RoyaltyFreak: As for the exclusive thing, I thought one had to wait the 30 days if you make the switch? It would be cool to get a staff reply on this…

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TortoiseTree says

It really depends what you want to do with your musical career to establish whether your should stay in AudioJungle or not. If you’re here waiting for things to take off for your band/solo career then I think your time is better spent looking for more gigs or finding new ways to promote yourself.

The people that do well here understand what production music is and who buys this type of music and what these places are all about. It really is it’s own thing, it’s not film scoring, it’s not producing albums it’s a very unique market and like any career has it’s own advantages and disadvantages.

To answer your question more specifically, convince you to stay in AudioJungle? If what you really want to do is be a film composer or rock star then there are other things your should be spending your time/efforts on. If you want a career in production/stock-library music this is a great place to start!

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TortoiseTree says


Reading this thread it seems that we all are on the same boat with sales :)
Life belts at the ready ladies and gentlemen…..women and children first….now where is Jack?

LOL

Captain: “Bosun, damage report?”

Bosun: “Full broadside. Major damage to the hull, Captain”

Captain: “Thank you, Bosun”

(little tidbit for fellow Master and Commander and Horatio Hornblower fans… also Star Trek if you set it in Space LOL)

Seriously speaking, this is all very odd… I wonder what’s behind such a drop in sales..

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TortoiseTree says


and we’re seeing a major drop in sales across a lot of different users.
Please explain what you mean by this. I think I’m missing something. How does what happened affect sales? ...because the last 2-3 days have been excruciatingly slow. :/

In hindsight I realise mixing the two topics in one post was not the best of ideas. I’m not saying that the hacking and the slow sales are correlated, I’m not ruling it out either but I don’t think they are.

What I meant was if you check the trends thread you see that a lot of authors (amongst them top selling ones like Martjin De Bont, Matt (AlumoAudio) and Carlos (Allegro120) and yourself Phil) have reported a MAJOR drop in sales. I too have seen a huge drop (I’d say close to 60%) and whilst I’m a medium selling author I do have a very large portfolio and any of you who know statistics know that a large sample size = more reliable trend estimates. Basically it means that I’ve been able to predict sales quite accurately over the past few years but have NEVER seen an anomaly like this.

For those of us who make a certain percentage of our living from this, this is pretty damn serious….

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