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TortoiseTree
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Even in “rich” countries you could do ok if you were smart with your money. Remember that one of the main advantages of AudioJungle is that your location (mostly) doesn’t matter (subject to internet connectivity).

I used to live in Nottingham in the UK, I had a pretty nice apartment for about 100 pounds a week (400 pounds a month all bills included) and spent about 40 pounds a week on food. At that I was actually living quite comfortably (eating out with friends, going to the cinema, the apartment was a studio apartment in a decent location). If I had lived a bit humbler or found another source of income to cover that little bit extra I could have probably kept that lifestyle. Sydney on the other hand is a whole different story!

There are cheap cities in the US, Australia, Japan etc. so it’s not limited to cheap countries. Also commodities are often more expensive in less developed countries (I’ve never seen audio gear cheaper than in the US!)

As for making a living doing this:

Yeah, the unpredictability is a huge factor. It’s worth having something else as safety. I quit my last job about 3 months ago to pursue more music related income but I’m also still working in another non-music related business. Fortunately for me, despite the drought on sales on AudioJungle the other business is actually doing pretty well so it’s pretty nice not having to worry too much about the drought (but I am still very very concerned and am making careful plans about the future of my music).

If you want to do it, go ahead, it’s not impossible but just remember you’re going to have to be extra smart and extra cunning to stay alive. You really need to put the hours (as if you are in a real office job) in and NEVER rest on your laurels. A year ago I was doing really well here and I kind of let things slide about half a year ago and I’m feeling the pinch now!

Use all your talents and realise that times pushing AudioJungle too much isn’t the best strategy in terms of your finances. Find other ways to make money and also exploit that at the same time!

Hope that was helpful.

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About old and new extended licenses. You are absolutely right. Before new licenses, I had around 30 (give or take) extended sales. After new licensing system- 0! Moreover, sales are dropping dramatically since July. Comparing to last year it’s about 50% less in earnings. Something is definitely wrong.

Exactly!

Before it was mostly relatively new authors complaining about lack of sales but ever since “the big change” I’m seeing a lot of authors who I’ve known here on AudioJungle for 2 years now suddenly being very vocal: authors who previously were consistent sellers now complaining about huge sales drops and/or new items not selling. Amongst those voicing this authors who have been here 3+ years and were at one time in the top selling list.

Now I have 2 theories about the economics of the problem.

1.) Less customers/less spending hence less sales. My theory earlier about people not wanting to shop here anymore might be true, it is possible but highly unlikely. I’ve also heard reports of other sites sales not doing that great so we know they’re not really shopping elsewhere…

2.) That leads me to my second theory. They customers are the same, their budgets are the same. The spread changed. Before the first choice for customers visiting the site was the categories tabs, on clicking those they hit a list of items by date, with the search tab, trending items comes first. The old system was way better because the customers saw new songs first, now they just see popular stuff.

Now here is my question, as much as we all complain no matter what someone is still scoring the sales and they will keep producing as the sales favour them. I personally don’t 100% believe that it’s a global recession in sales, I believe that the traffic is being pushed towards a few authors and now it’s up to the rest to decide whether they want to keep or writing or not.

Before new authors were very motivated to compose a lot as they would always score a sale within days of a new song, now that this doesn’t happen as often anymore I wonder if new authors will be dissuaded to stay as they probably won’t see the money as fast.

Same for old authors, now that new tracks aren’t “nearly-assured” sales like they were in the past, we will soon begin to ask ourselves what is the point of adding new stuff if the old stuff is all that sells.

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TortoiseTree
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Since they changed the search engine and introduced trending items thing my sales dropped by 50% on this market,and also my old items don’t sell at all anymore.

Yeah right? I haven’t seen an exact 50% drop on my end (yet) but a significant one that is getting pretty damn close. If I continue the month the same way then yes, it will be a 50% drop.

The new layout really inhibits the sale of new items, as it encourages search words instead of using the category links which pushes customers towards popular items.

As for the the new licenses, I think perhaps people shopped at AudioJungle in the past because they felt that since the extended license was the most expensive, that everything covered it including film licenses and national broadcasts etc. Now with the new licenses, they are morally obliged to pay for those. And the proof is in the pudding, how many of you all have sold the new licenses? I’ve only sold from the second tier ONCE. I know these new license tiers are rare sales.

I fear that AudioJungle perhaps took too many steps in imitating other sites that were less successful than it (focus on keyword search vs categories, various tiers of license) and this may hurt the authors in the long run. Unfortunately I know it’s useless to beg for the old design back as the design has already changed on ThemeForest, VideoHive and the entire Envato network so they won’t change it anymore….

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This seems bizarre, November is traditionally one of the very best months. I had a really strong start at the beginning of the month but then after Tuesday last week I saw nothing till yesterday (which is SUPER rare for me, I rarely have 3 days without sales let alone a whole bloody week) easily the longest period with no sales since January 2013!

Even though I am somewhat comforted knowing it’s a global trend I am concerned as to the causes. Any ideas folks?

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TortoiseTree
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Hey now, AudioJungle is looking a little pinker today :) So again, a huge congrats to you PZ, I am excited for you! When I get some more time, you better believe I’m going to be trying to get it back :)

What a great sport!

It’s truly an inspiration to have people like Pink Zebra and Tim McMorris leading the way here on AudioJungle!

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Congrats Pink Zebra! Great composer and great all-round guy! Well deserved!

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When it comes to orchestral tracks:

I put in compression ONLY for the melody-carrying solo instrument. Nothing else.

I know I should be EQ-ing more but I only do it when I personally hear that certain frequencies simply aren’t working.

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For solo instruments there are quite a few gems in the using Reason’s “Combinator”.

The patches for Solo Violin, Solo Oboe, Solo Bassoon and Solo Trumpet are surprisingly good and “beat” some of the sounds I hear from more expensive libraries in my opinion.

As far as woodwinds are concerned I would like to know about a library that does the clarinet and the saxophone well. I occasionally use the clarinet to add colour to harmony but the clarinet samples I own are too weak to let it carry the melody. I’d love to know a good source for Saxophone for doing those smooth jazz tracks but it’s been hard finding that real saxophone sound!

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I’ve been looking to upgrade myself, there is a wide variety of offerings for mostly the same price these days so it will be interesting to see what people say.

My friends in the film scoring business like CineSamples and EastWest/Quantum Leap.

Spitfire is supposed to have really awesome orchestral stuff but is considerably more expensive than a lot of other sample libraries.

I use pretty cheap stuff myself, mixing Kontakt’s orchestral stuff with Reason’s samples. It comes out ok, but I personally believe that the libraries named above are better and I am looking to invest in one of them in the near future.

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Thank you

“iTunes and other similar personal-use platforms” please advise if other similar personal-use platforms include cdbaby too ??

Darko Braje

Doesn’t CdBaby also offer licensing services? An old colleague of mine used to sell his licenses through CdBaby but I don’t know if they still do. If they do, then you can’t be an exclusive author if you also use CdBaby.

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