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TortoiseTree says

There are a few supposed “rules of thumb” behind this. There is a standard for pay somewhere, it’s on an old thread and it’s a pdf with a guide on how much to charge depending on the project. I know it was uploaded by Gareth Coker, one of the top authors here, as an example for someone else. If you or anyone else can find it that is a good way to start.

Another thing I often hear is that audio should be given 5% of the total budget so if they spent 100,000 USD on the film then you should get 5,000 as you are not just doing the music but the foley too!

Oh as for the first question… unless I morally disagreed with the film (like if it was some propaganda about some political party I disliked) I would probably go for the gig and write the music. We all have to start somewhere right? If you already have a career going and you think this film is so bad it will kill it then maybe reject it. But normally the composer doesn’t get heat if the movie is bad.

For example Elliot Goldenthal was the film score composer for the widely panned movie “Batman & Robin” directed by Joel Schumacher. Elliot Goldenthal went on to win the oscar for film scoring in 2002. Heck, even Joel Schumacher still had a decent career after directing that stinker!

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TortoiseTree says

Big congrats to Jaime!

Awesome guy and great composer/producer!!

Let’s go Aussie authors!!

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TortoiseTree says

Hi guys,

I know this is kind of an old topic but I wanted to say thank you to everyone who contributed to it and especially give a shout out to the friends that posted long and detailed responses and those who wrote me personally. It was truly a great (christmas) gift to receive so much advice and may we all have a great 2015!

Cheers, Antonio

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So when I first joined AudioJungle, nearly 3 years ago, I got very excited. I think this happens to most of us as we discover it’s a simple and relatively fast way to get our music out there and get it making money. I began writing a lot of music and uploading everything I wrote as I really wanted to improve and see what people thought of my music. I was so excited I would compose about one track a day. I would also listen to music and then get ideas, it was brilliant and very exciting. I was also really happy when I started pulling in figures that helped pay the rent, not just measly money that paid for a bit of extra gear here and there.

So after about 2 and a half years here and about 200+ tracks written I started to get really bad dry spells on ideas. I found I either re-composed music I had already written or was writing really bad and cheezy music. It was awful, as if I had run the idea factory dry. So pretty much since July my output has halved (possibly even less) and I have certainly felt it in sales. Actually, up until September I was ok due to the large size of my portfolio and my “bestsellers” keeping me alive but ever since I’ve really felt the pinch and have seen both my rank and my sales take quite a dive. I mean I do understand that we’ve had some strange months and also that competition has gotten mad tough around here (we even have an Emmy Winner and a Grammy Winner as AudioJungle authors so really, the big boys have come here to play ball!) No matter what, seeing sales and rank fall so much is a worrying thing.

Initially I thought buying new gear would help me, and so I saved up and really splurged during the black friday sales. Initially this helped as I did begin getting new ideas as I was playing with these new “toys” but soon after (about 2 weeks) I ran dry on ideas again.

This really bothers me as before I had a set time I would sit down and compose and an idea would come out no matter what. Now I can spend the whole evening in front of my keyboard and often nothing comes out.

My idea dry spell has lasted nearly half a year now and I’ve even tried staying away from music for weeks to try to “re-ignite” my ideas. Nothing has really worked so I want to ask you, my fellow authors how you get the inspiration back?

Have any of you felt/feel the way I do about all this? What are you doing to try to solve it?

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TortoiseTree says

Personally, I think it’s quite tough to do well with Electronic music in general here due to the (false) impression that doing electronic music is easy. There is a perception that since there are theoretically unlimited sounds one can make from just a couple of softsynths (many coming built into the DAW’s we buy for free) one can just take off from there and make countless electronic tracks. I too thought this prior to joining AudioJungle but after speaking to people who create electronic music and watching some documentaries about it I realise that’s far from the truth. Actually many times electronic artists buy MORE gear than those of us doing other types of music as having “fresher” and “newer/more unusual” sounds is so critical for them to stay popular in this highly competitive genre. Also they spend AGES on creating new sounds and tweaking those sounds during performance. Many times I see them spend hours on creating just ONE sound.

So yeah, I think since it’s quite cheap to buy a couple of softsynths (compare to let’s say buying good orchestral samples) and the structure of electronic songs seems simple (again, not always the truth) I think a lot of people think that it’s easy to write electronic music and hence a lot of it gets submitted here on AudioJungle. Because of that, I think reviewers are a lot pickier when it comes to electronic music (due to the high volume of it coming in) and even among what is approved there is a lot of competition.

Furthermore, a lot of the authors here on AudioJungle come from Northern and Eastern Europe where Electronic music is a big thing so a lot of competition coming from there to produce good electronic tracks.

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TortoiseTree says

Start a new account.

Take advantage since you had the good luck to check forums before starting to upload. Check out the forum thread’s that give guides to new authors and take it to heart. Really spend time planning and designing the visual theme and feel of your author site. All the top authors here have really good site designs. Also do plan out your uploads, I’m assuming you have back-catalogue of a few songs, so as to remain on the front page as long as possible. Try to limit yourself to uploading one track a day (and probably only one or none on the weekend) to keep the stream of new songs constant. Of course eventually you will run out of catalogue (it’s very hard to write more than one song a day, let alone one) so start estimating a new tempo for uploads after that.

Hope that helped!

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TortoiseTree says

Matt, you’re an absolute hero mate! Thanks so much for the info and for doing all the research! Three cheers for Matt!

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TortoiseTree says


But what happened to your portfolio than?

I deleted all my songs because of the tax thing, I replaced my avatar with the color of the page! I’m still here pickled in spirits though.

You can still upload to other “smaller” websites. You probably won’t make as much money but I know they don’t do the tax thingy and you do make a couple sales every now and then. The exposure can’t hurt either as you may get a commission from it if someone really likes your music.

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TortoiseTree says

http://rekkerd.org/deals-deals-deals/

Thanks for the awesome link…

Oh wait…

Too many things I want…

There go all my October earnings (jk)

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TortoiseTree says

Yeah! Mat is a really nice guy with a great sense of humor! Great having him as a reviewer!

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