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@Digitalscience, +1! Very well said.

I also agree with Digitalscience. Those parts annoyed me as well and strongly remind me when politicians try to trick you mind mincing words.

Don’t know what exactly brought Envato to act in this way. I don’t want to think it’s craving. I hope they are only trying to adapt to new laws or market needs.

However, authors don’t deserve such hypocrisy.

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Alright

Did some reading, still this whole thing is a bit in the grey area for me. I still do not understand why envato changed their way of doing business. The only thing i see happening is too much change that costs the buyer and the author is not good for business.

Envato as a big corporation has many ways of writing off against their income from being the middle man. I think that authors and buyers don’t have this option unless they have a registered business with a tax number. I have a registered business and i can write off a lot of expenses against my income which all Canadian business owners do. I am an anti government guy because i think the government is worst then the MOB does not matter what country you live in.

To me this whole thing with who is the seller who is the re-seller makes no sense. The seller is obviously Envato not the authors the authors provide the files to envato and get a percentage of the total sale of the file. So this strongly says that the author is not the seller. Think as if you try to sell an item on consignment, the seller would be the store not the person trying to sell his product. We provide our files to envato and they sell and see the transaction, all we see is that we made a certain percentage on a file. We do not even have a contact or any information who bought our files and the reason for this is because we are not the seller envato is.

I sold digital media on many marketplaces before joining envato and i can say that most of them went out of business or their business is not doing all that good because they implemented changes that were only good for them, but when authors and buyers suffer they tend to look for other places to try to buy or sell their digital items.

I have been a member for 6 years and lately i have seen way too many changes that were not really necessary or made no sense. For instance changing the badges some things in the changes make no sense at all and are wrong but these are just cosmetic changes that people will comment on but they don’t really care all that much. When you change something that is got something to do with the income now that”s a different story.

The one thing i never like was the item prices i think they are way too low specially for wp themes and html templates. Ohh and also cannot stand the bundles because this is just a kick in the rump for us this seems like a quick money grab for envato and everyone”s sales suffer because why would anyone spend 60 bucks on one theme when they have 20 in the bundle for the same price.

I have been in this business for over 25 years and have seen many marketplaces crash and fold because of greed and i would hate to see envato going in the same direction. I think since this is a community based marketpalce authors and buyers should have some sort of input on changes since both authors and buyers put the bread on everyone”s table. I think changing things without proper explanation and honesty pisses people off and creates problems and i am seeing a lot of this lately.

Cheers

Lester

+1

I would add that if Envato wants to be just a Platform instead of a reseller, they should at least decrease their fees.

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Thought you had a company :) Why not open one?

Because we are free to decide our working setup. I am in the same Digitalscience situation: everything is coded by me, but withdrawals are not 100% for me.

And if theoretically opening a company would be easier to manage these situations, real things are different. For example, opening a company in Italy I’d see my tax burden pass from 30 to 60 (SIXTY) percent. Plus at least 1K euros more to my accountant and 2K more to maintain all stupid italian taxes, every year.

And I totally agree with Digitalscience: my main concern is about my name on invoices, for sums I’ll never see on my bank account.

I perfectly understand you since I’m an italian author as well. Reading your tax percentage (30%) I think we have the same tax regime. It would be great to open a new forum Thread to share information about Italian solutions suggested by each other accountants. At the moment it’s a mess.

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I haven’t understood: I pay VAT regardless I live in EU or not? If I’m the owner of my templates, and I don’t live in EU, then I shouldn’t pay EU taxes. Who does receive these money then? I don’t get the logic, please explain.

You pay EU taxes if buyer is from EU.

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something definitely changed starting early october. Google maybe, or new license schemes. Almost a dead market after really good premises.

I have the same feeling…

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Too many Epic Trailer! I hate Epic!

I think it mostly depends on the example tracks showed us by Envato in the rule page. I perfectly agree that Trailer music doesn’t mean Epic music, I think most of us just follow Envato instructions. :)

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My entry: Epic Choir Trailer http://audiojungle.net/item/epic-choir-trailer/9088657

Many interesting and insipiring cues here, guys! I haven’t listent to them all (and I probably will never do that :D ) but what I heard is outstanding!

Good luck!

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CUT

Just one other point I wanted to make. Audiojungle being the main leader in the stock music industry now, I think it’s okay to push the envelope a little bit. Just because some other smaller stock sites may offer a broadcast license at a lower rate, doesn’t mean we should follow suit. The fact is, the quality at Audiojungle is a lot higher than most of these other stock sites, and is now the leader in the stock music industry. But as we all know, not just these smaller market buyers are picking up tracks here anymore. Just within the past couple of years we’ve seen a large influx of these big market buyers, and it will only increase all the more in the future. This is a great thing! But I think Envato needs to be the leader in the industry by making the leap of appropriately accommodating BOTH the stock and big broadcast markets, and fairly doing so for both buyers and authors alike. To me this definitely requires a higher 4th tier license.

CUT

I agree with that. Lower rates could be ok for emerging stock sites, not for the leader of the market offering such high quality music like Audiojungle does.

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To be more clear, I would need a central slider like here: http://www.profmedns.com/index.html?theme=NOSAA-HTML and clicking on the pictures the music player plays a music track. Do you have something to suggest?

Cheers,

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Sound-Tricks asks:
Thank you! This is definitely an improvement in the right way. In addition it should be easier to choose the right license. Which license should be considered for free to play videogames on the net (facebook, Kongregate.com, Newgrounds, and many others…): Broadcast or copies of downloaded products?

For online games that are streamed (and not downloaded), the Music Standard License allows unlimited streaming of these products.

My customers are mainly free to play online videogames developers. From my point of view, prices are good. I only think STANDARD LICENSE needs to be more restrictive and SHOULDN’T include online games. The mistake is to compare streamed online games to youtube videos. Online games are part of a market where developers earn money from a sponsor for every game released. They are commercial products, played milions of times, and in my opinion the appropriate license should be a step higher oof standard license. An half-way category beetween STANDARD and MUSIC MASS REPRODUCTION could be considered. Something like LOW VOLUME mass reproduction or something similar.

Cheers,

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