I would think the biggest problem is the text size. You probably shouldn’t use 4pt text. It’s way too small. even if you could read that small text, it wont be readable due to the rasterization used in offset print.
I think it’s pretty neat that someone can offer something like that for $25. For my current ‘rate’ based on time used I would have to charge atleast 4 times that. And in my point of view it’s not his fault that he can do it faster.
By the way, Our company fixes the $25 business cards.
cooledition, come on. Don’t be like that. Seriously. Don’t take it personal. Even if it feels like crap or pushes you down. Don’t let it crawl under your skin. It’s difficult but it can be done. And it’s also important to do so because once you go with the “bad” flow, it’s very difficult to get out of it. And in the end it will eat you inside out.
So chin up, you guys make good stuff.
the also one thing to remember is that the people who review items are people too. they, unfortunately don’t have the “ultimate truth” about graphic design or style. and i’d say the same thing aplies to us too.
Sometimes people say wow when they see something cool and sometimes they say blah when they ront realize that they are staring at something super cool. hehe.
one thing id like to see is more different style reviewrs. now it looks like they come from the same school and wear the same jeans. or then its just people making same things over and over again… go figure. heh.
anyhow. I have said this to many people but you cant go wrong if you try to chill. once you try to push too many designs out in a short period of time your designs tend to turn out not so intresting. and please note that when I say you, i don’t mean you you, but you as a generalization including me.
It depends alot on the color too.
what a crappy first line, but then again its true. so things to consider are the colors used, the final print resolution, athe resolution of the file and the paper used in the for printing.
the offset print uses 4 colors: cyan magenta yellow and black. lets say your line would be 50% black, also known as gray. the printer would be still using only black ink to produce the gray line, but instead of printing it with solid color (black) the illusion of gray will be produced through a halftone pattern… you know those dots you see when you study a magazine print with a magnifying glass. what it means is that if your lines are 100% cyan, magenta, yellow or black you can go thinner than if the colors are tints. also if your color for the lines are mixed from two color components, lets say you want the firetruck red and you put in 100% magenta and 80% yellow, Instead of getting one fire truck red line, you might end up with two lines that are really close to each other but not quite overlapping, one being 100% magenta and the other one pale, rasterized yellow. This happens because sometimes the paper moves during the printing process or it hasnt been calibrated carefully enough.
... agh, this might be a long post if I try to explain it all… Lets try a short cut:
if you want to use thin lines dont go bellow 0.25pt. and thats if your lines are solid, one component CMYK color.
For tints and mixed colors I wouldn’t go bellow 0.4pt.
One thing I learned a long time ago is that once you become too performance oriented you lose alot on the creative side. And if in the end creativity is what you sell…
and yes, I am an addict.
When got my first sale like a month and a half ago I remember thinking that this is quite nice. It’s like 2 bucks, not that much but maybe in a year i could have made like 100 bucks or something like that through this site. And I don’t think I have ever been as happy about making 2 bucks.
Anyhow, today I got a red paw. And i have to say, I feel… funny.
There isn’t really a point to this post, I just needed to share the happy moment with you folks, after all, this is probably the coolest community I have seen in years. You guys rock.
You also might want to look for an illustrator. After all things like that are mostly done through digital painting. The copy / Paste stuff will look like… well, like copy / paste stuff.
graphicmind saidAh, so web and print projects require different items?
On the web, size matters. This is why seamless/tileable patterns are used.
Most definately. Usually for print jobs I go for extended realism. For example for a menu of a restaurant you might want a nice dark wood background where the texture itself needs to “feel” very real and then you can start aplying shadows and lights and what not on top of that in order to create the illusion for layed down photo of a cafe mug on wooden table next to a nice had drawn price list.
and then again for the web, the element sizes vary alot, so its much more handy if the texture actually loops. if you are using a looping background then you’re probably golden with just one background and you don’t have to make different version for all the different element sizes. and also the screen sizes are different. so if you want you background image to fill the whole screen it needs to be awfully huge to to do that. and in a smaller monitor where you just see a bit of that background the texture could easily appear too big.
and then there is the DPI . generally in printing the DPI to be used is 300. Or actually 304 if you want to be a dick about it. and on the screen 72 DPI is the way to go.
hope this helps!
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