Posts by FinalDestiny

1961 posts Don't Worry, Be Happy
  • Sells items exclusively on Envato Market
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FinalDestiny says

Of course you can make a living out of Envato. But that mostly depends where you’re from, it will be hard to make a living if you live in Switzerland for example. Or US / UK / etc. You get the point.

You can spend months on a multi-purpose and it can not sell or you can make a simple and beautiful theme that will sell like crazy. There’s no general rule, it’s upto the customers, on what they like / dislike. And up to you too, how much will you invest in that theme after you finish it(advertising it).

While most of the top themes are multi-purpose, I think there’s still place for great niched themes. However, don’t think that just because you add 50 sliders, 50 homepages and 50 plugins, your theme will sell like hot cakes, because it won’t.

1961 posts Don't Worry, Be Happy
  • Sells items exclusively on Envato Market
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Made it to the Authors' Hall of Fame
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FinalDestiny says

You will get the same html and css files, only the images may differ.

1961 posts Don't Worry, Be Happy
  • Sells items exclusively on Envato Market
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Made it to the Authors' Hall of Fame
  • Has referred 200+ members
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FinalDestiny says

Envato is the seller, BTW why this discussion? I missed the whole VAT discussion, are we (authors) going to handle invoices?! And how on earth VAT is 20%? we need clear justification on this number!

Please read the whole discussion and you’ll find your answers, if you missed it, no need to re-ask the questions that other 100 members asked. VAT is not 20%, it depends on the country of the buyers and the buyer will pay it. e.g. If the buyer is from Germany, he’ll pay 19% more and Envato will collect that VAT.

As for invoicing, from what Envato’s saying, yes, we’ll pretty much need to invoice everything ourselves.

1961 posts Don't Worry, Be Happy
  • Sells items exclusively on Envato Market
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Made it to the Authors' Hall of Fame
  • Has referred 200+ members
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FinalDestiny says


From the blog post today: “We’ll be introducing limited buyer information against each sale.” I guess we might get that necessary information in the near future…

So they will start displaying buyer private information?

What that information will be? name, address, mail, VAT number?

They for sure won’t show the e-mail, probably the minimum requirements for an invoice

1961 posts Don't Worry, Be Happy
  • Sells items exclusively on Envato Market
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
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FinalDestiny says

@revaxarts All I’m curious is if it’s legal for someone to invoice on someone else’s behalf.

1961 posts Don't Worry, Be Happy
  • Sells items exclusively on Envato Market
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
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FinalDestiny says



^ Maybe they’ll remove the option of buying prepaid credits and replacing it with the new shopping cart.
Okay, then you purchase 3 items from 3 authors and make one payment to Envato, which sends the money to me after 15-45 days. Where exactly do I directly sell to the customer? :)
I get where you are coming from and completely agree with you, but according to their ToS, they just handle the payment on our behalf.

They can’t invoice on your behalf.

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FinalDestiny says

Also one more: How can they get the 20% fee from buyer if everything is done through one transaction? :D Direct sell = me + the buyer. Without Envato. That’s what means to sell directly, Envato. Waiting 45 days for your money and saying that we sell directly and we’re in full control is the biggest joke ever.

1961 posts Don't Worry, Be Happy
  • Sells items exclusively on Envato Market
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Made it to the Authors' Hall of Fame
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FinalDestiny says

^ Maybe they’ll remove the option of buying prepaid credits and replacing it with the new shopping cart.

Okay, then you purchase 3 items from 3 authors and make one payment to Envato, which sends the money to me after 15-45 days. Where exactly do I directly sell to the customer? :)

1961 posts Don't Worry, Be Happy
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FinalDestiny says

How do they expect us to add that 10% to the price if we don’t receive it at all? They simply substract it, those money NEVER get into our accounts. That’s just not how things work. If they want to go on that way, transfer the money directly to us and send us invoices every month. Simple as that.

They, for their “fee” 10%, get the money in real-time, while we need to wait 45 days?

They’re taking full control over our items and money and they are even paid to do so(10%). What a joke.

1961 posts Don't Worry, Be Happy
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  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
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FinalDestiny says


Each month authors will have a bulk Author Fee invoice from Envato to the Author that aggregates all the author fees from that month into a single document. We’ll be introducing limited buyer information against each sale.

Oh, seriously? As long as you don’t provide ALL the details of the buyer, we couldn’t care less about your changes. I want the name, e-mail, phone, every single detail they provide. That means to sell directly. As for a bulk author fee invoice, you will need to give us the money and then send us the invoice. You’ll get your payment on the 15th of next month if we’re the sellers. If you hold my money, THAT’S NOT A DIRECT SALE AND I’M NOT THE SELLER.

How the hell can I be the seller if I don’t have all the details the user provides when he purchases an item? If I receive my money after 45 days sometimes? If you handle everything in regards to the payments?

Literally they’re laughing at us with these posts.

In the ToS (which you agreed to) it’s stated that they do all in your behalf so it’s sounds reasonably for me (at least from now on)

Please contact your accountant for a clear statement in your country!

No, I agreed with the TOS when I signed up, those conditions, without anything related to being the direct seller, but receiving a comission. You can’t just change the TOS as it pleases you and expect everyone to comply. Especially when the whole core model changes.

Also the purchases will need to get invoiced. And they for sure won’t have my name or details on them, added by Envato, that’s illegal.

Also scenario: Buyer purchases Envato credits. Buyer buys with credits my item. Where am I the direct seller? The only payment was made to Envato, by the buyer, for credits. The credits are then transferred onto my account by the buyer(after the payment was already sent to Envato directly) and Envato sends me the money in my bank account, for those credits. So where exactly am I the direct seller here?

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