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CodingJack says

Here are the main points that make this way better than before:

Authors with items on ThemeForest and CodeCanyon will be able to choose whether or not they support each item (on an item-by-item basis).
There will be no prescribed turnaround times but we want to give authors the ability to set expectations clearly with buyers. We’re still working on exactly how to do this but it will likely be in the form of a setting that authors show to buyers.

Yes authors who don’t “opt-in” will be at a disadvantage to competitors who do, but this isn’t really different than the current system, where all items have a “Support” tab which states whether the author provides support or not, and then if an author currently says they provide support, they’re expected to provide it (or otherwise would be participating in “false advertising” which isn’t currently allowed).

Yes Envato is going to set the cost for support, and also take a 30% cut. But authors now have the choice to not participate, whereas before, it was going to be mandatory across the board.

Things that still need to be ironed out:

1) Giving authors the ability to issue refunds automatically, for both the item purchase and any additional support packages purchased (solves the “help, I’ve been taken hostage by an unreasonable customer” situation).

2) How “Author Vacations” plays into everything. If an author is advertising and selling support, but then takes a 6 month vacation, obviously that isn’t going to fly, so some type of reasonable parameters need to be figured out.

3) What happens if an item is deleted by the author or by Envato. Do purchased support packages get refunded to the customer? And if so, will Envato issue a charge-back to the author for the loss?

So there’s still some important unanswered questions. But based on phase 2, I’m definitely optimistic.

Additionally, DOTonPAPER’s comment about customers not reading details is spot on. For the support forum I work with, we recently changed the forum’s homepage to prominently ask for some specific details about the customer’s environment to help us solve issues faster (simple things like “what browser and OS are you using”). And only 1% of all customers actually include the information we ask for. So some brainstorming needs to be done to figure out how we can effectively communicate support policies to buyers. Maybe the best solution for this is to send the buyer to a “purchase confirmation” page where they can review the support details and “accept the terms” before they’re allowed to actually make a purchase.

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CodingJack says

Authors with items on ThemeForest and CodeCanyon will be able to choose whether or not they support each item (on an item-by-item basis).
Great move, hope this stance will not be changed any time in the future! :)

+1

I think Envato really came through big time on this. Authors get to keep their freedom, with the chance to make additional money. Sounds pretty sweet to me. And the best part in my opinion are the planned efforts to clarify support expectations.

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CodingJack says

Maybe Envato Studio?

https://studio.envato.com
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CodingJack says

I don’t really hire freelancers, but I do have experience with “partnerships”, and my advice would be to only get involved deep with people you trust. Not always easy when you don’t really know the person to begin with, but you could task them with some very small jobs to start and then see how they deliver. Then once you’re confident you’ve found the right person, you can feel confident handing them something much bigger.

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CodingJack says

^ +1 Hogash,

Although Envato made some progress with helping buyers learn about support expectations via the new “Support” tab, they didn’t take it far enough in my opinion. You know that little confirmation alert that says “You are about to purchase xyz, do you want to continue?”. There should have been another alert for non-supported items that says “Support is not included with this item. Would you still like to purchase?”.

And there could be a warning for supported items as well: “Support is included with your item. Click here to learn more about the support this author offers” (with link to item’s “Support” tab).

But let’s face it, making it this simple is bad for business, as it would cut down on impulse buys.

Fabio’s “multiple tickets get answered last” system is a brilliant system, as it gives everyone a chance to have their questions answered, while also preventing the bad apples from monopolizing support. But unfortunately, this system wouldn’t work under the new “72 hour” support policy.

Here’s a breakdown of the typical support question:

1) Basic, reasonable “how to” questions – 20%
2) Hold my hand questions (aka “do it for me”) – 40%
3) Reported bug (aka “please personally research how I botched the implementation”)

And here’s how they apply to the new support system:

1 – Now required with new support
2 – Can be rejected as it’s considered custom work
3 – Once the botched implementation is verified (95% of all cases), can also be considered custom work and therefore rejected.

So in the end, creating a mandatory system that only covers #1 above, and technically excludes #’s 2 and 3, the amount of actual progress made is minimal.

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CodingJack says

So much amazing talent here! “Hard Reject Monster” my favorite so far. I always wondered what that reviewer looked like :D

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CodingJack says
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CodingJack says

Rock Stars!

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CodingJack says

Most interesting to me is that 36% of TF buyers answered “As many support requests as I need”, and 19% said with “As much time as I need”.

Hopefully when an author chooses to refund the customer their money, the customer will be restricted from posting comments on the author’s item afterward. Because the 36% and 18% above are the customers who usually end up abusing support at some point. So it wouldn’t be fair to try and help someone, then end up issuing a refund, and then after all that, having to endure the customer’s wrath in the item comments :D

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CodingJack says

Congrats on the launch Damir and everyone else who helped contribute to the project. Looks amazing! :)

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