Posts by ChapterThemes

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ChapterThemes says

Looks nice – surely will be approved.

Good luck with it!

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ChapterThemes says

Looks nice indeed! – but this isn’t for creating complete themes right? i mean – you can build content inside a theme, but if you want an actual custom designed theme, than you still need to build the theme, and then you can use this framework for things like options, the pagebuilder etc.

Am i right? Or am i missing something?

Another question: Can you disable things? For example the page builder or something else? Only use the options framework perhaps?

Thanks!

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ChapterThemes says

Just got a reply that they placed the rating at the wrong item by accident…

So maybe i got on my ass for this one :) or maybe not…

Anyways, the idea still stands

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ChapterThemes says

I hate review whining threads – but this is just about an idea.

Today i received a 3 star rating, which is not the worst..

But: It came from a buyer who bought the theme more than 2 years ago. On top of that, he or she had litterally good support in a large period which took about 40 to 60 emails, all ending up in a happy buyer.

Now, over 2 years later – the buyer gives a 3 star rating saying ‘not flexible with customization’.

2 years later pff – i’ll bet they’re using the theme more than once huh :) I’ve send the buyer a big thank you for that bs rating though.

The rating itself, i couldn’t care less – but it got me thinking: The ability to rate an item should expire.

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ChapterThemes says

^ Well if they ask why you haven’t collected VAT.. you would say you can’t because you’re selling indirectly – buyers are anonymous, you don’t know where they’re from to determine VAT to be added and you can’t set prices to add the additional VAT either. Envato takes care of all of this, and therefore is acting as the seller, and is responsible for collecting VAT.

If Envato needs to collect VAT for theirselfs – i don’t have anything to do with it. It’s simply not my business. Ofcourse, it would be nice if Envato does do what’s right – but i think we don’t have to worry about that :)

For me the rules are simply put: i collect commision. – the commision comes from outside the EU – Australia – no VAT rule to apply ( impossible to do so anyway ): collect and pay income tax like i should.

Until otherwise clearly noted by Envato and visible in our sales: Good bye and good luck to you all! :)

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ChapterThemes says


Without any data from any buyer you simply can not be the seller.

Maybe one thing to think about for you:

If you sell something on your own website, but don’t ask your customer what’s his name, adress, etc, and take money from him, does that make you not the seller? So all you have to do is not asking this to not have any responsibility?

Just think about it ;)

Well by that ‘data’ i ofcourse mean bankaccount transactions etc. Because there is absolutely no trail that i receive for example any VAT.

Also if i sell something on my OWN site: i am olbligated to charge VAT on top of the normal price – and collect it from the buyer, and later orn turn it over to the taxagency. The sale is then made in my country under my name. And in case of business-purchases they need to give their business info ( they need to, to make it a valid business purchase ).

Also, when they pay online through some payment gateway, you already got some buyers info :) But it’s common ( even obligated? ) to ask for buyer info when you sell something online – simple.

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ChapterThemes says

@ChapterThemes: of course I know it, I have an accountant and I already did my researches. But I want to know what Envato does.

Who invoice who? Invoice with my name (they don’t have m VAT ID, then surely ot an official one)? Our countries will be informed that “LCweb” sold X?

Is not only a one-way matter. And moreover, here Authors are loosing (if not already lost) completely trust in Envato.
Anyway, is a bit off-topic, then let’s hope to get an answer soon or later..

I get your point.

But one thing is for sure: Envato sends an invoice to the buyer in it’s own name – buyers buy from Envato and receive an invoice – buyers do not receive my business info, not even all authors are businesses. Envato sells for the authors and give authors commission – so Envato is your ‘client’.

Until Envato clearly states otherwise and changes the whole commision system to a direct author > buyer connection with the purchases – i can’t see any other way than described above.

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ChapterThemes says

1. Have you got an official confirmation of your law interpretation? If not, then it’s just words, words, words…

2. Have you had VAT or income tax audit done by your local IRS and have you got an confirmation that everything is as simple as you say?

3. Where are you from? Don’t you understand that tax law can differ from EU country to EU country? It can be simple in UK which is pretty friendly to small business, while it can be considered as fraud in countries not so friendly to small business such as Poland, Italy, Greece or Germany.

Ok just 1 more time:

1. No words my friend – in my country you’re only the official seller if you or your business have an so-called direct understanding and you also need buyer info – name, adres, maybe a business number etc. Without any data from any buyer you simply can not be the seller. Right now – Envato is my only ‘client’ paying me commision for the items they are selling to the buyers.

2. Income tax and VAT are way big different things. And yes – i pay income tax over my total income as a business, including the income that comes from Envato.

3. Well the UK is an exception for the EU – as for EU rules UK has others. But i’m not from the UK. But – VAT is almost the same thing everywhere: A business collects VAT only to play as a hatch to give it to your government. Well – i don’t collect VAT from Envato or any buyer – the sale isn’t even in my country nor is it in my name ( because otherwise i would need the buyers info and buycontract etc. and yes – then i would have to collect VAT ) – buyers buy from Envato – not from me.

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ChapterThemes says

Exactly, that doesn’t give an answer but raises other questions. As a pro with tax duties and laws to observe I need to know how my sales are managed.

Need to know if someone tells to Italy “LCweb” (that is just a name) sold X dollars, while I earned X * 70% dollars. If some Invoice with “LCweb” name is issued.

When comes to taxation rules, EU is terribly messed and authors need to have explained the complete Envato process. If truly from Jan 1st things are changed, we should be informed immediately.

EU is super easy.

1. Authors get commision: We’re NOT the seller – it’s just impossible

2. You don’t collect VAT since Envato sels the prodcut and need to worrie about collecting VAT for theirselfs in their own country: Author’s get commision, no VAT: so you do NOT pay VAT.

Man this is so simple i don’t get why people keep asking and discussing this.

This is my last time putting any effort in this thread anyway cuzz is seems like people are 1. not professional and don’t have any kind of accountant person to guide them – 2. They have a bad accountant of 3. Are just seeing things way too complicated.

Good luck with it :)

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ChapterThemes says

9 days is nothing – it could take much longer. Be patient ( even though it’s hard ).

I’m glad it’s taking a bit longer nowadays – it means all the crappy themes don’t slip through like they used to.

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