You know what your words are spelling out? They’re saying that every member is allowing envato to rely on the fact that no one will do anything about it. And that’s all that every other member who has replied has said too. I’m going to be leaving this company as soon as I no longer need to make earnings off my files. I’ll leave with these memories of this company. And I’ll watch the prophecies about it come to fulfillment. At this point, there’s nothing anyone can do about it… just as you say about yourselves. Here’s a hint. Eden was known as a garden where paradise was perpetual and endless and without corruption. The story of eden ends with its subjects receiving banishment from paradise. While I do not think I’m being banished, not by any result, the company uses the name “eden” in a way that contradicts the truth behind its existence. To benefit from the works of others is the intent of this company. Where the true eden is a place without business and profit. Thus is the end result of this company, for it shall see the consequences of using the name, “Eden” so falsely.
Let me ask this community :
1.) Who’s files are being sold here? A: The files belong to the authors
2.) How much does envato receive from the files that are not theirs? A: 50 – 30 percent
3.) How much do they give back to the community that doesn’t benefit them more than those who sell here? A: Everything they put into the expansion and development of these marketplaces is for their benefit.
4.) In regards to the 3rd question, what implementations truly benefit the business aspect of the authors who sell their files here? I suppose many of you are happy with the “goodies” that have been added to the site’s design. Let me remind you what the important part of business is: who’s files are sold here? A: The authors’ files are sold here. How much do they take? A: 50 – 30 Percent.
Let them continue to pay their marketplace coders and designers to improve the sites. But in doing that, it merely allows them to create fancy and appealing features for that sake. Instead, wouldn’t you authors rather have features and systems created that would truly benefit those who sell here, without it being a masquerade where they express excitement, ( which you members are so eager to express excitement in return for their accomplishments )? Features like freedom to receive payouts more than 1 time a month. Or freedom to choose which files to feature in our portfoilo, as well as the number of files to feature? Something that wouldn’t force us to conform. Many active den authors have spoken up about these things. And those authors were put under and ignored every time.
Case in point:
1.) 50 – 30 Percent received from sales of files they don’t create and don’t own. That is an incredibly expensive rate for merely hosting your files, even if it gives a system for them to be sold.
2.) All improvements, additions, and implementations have been for the sake of their gain. What implementations have truly benefited the authors, other than the so called, “improved” payout system, which still has many limitations and restrictions? I’m sure you’ll suggest that the home page has been improved. Undoubtably it has. But it continues to benefit their gain, still, even as it answeres the cries from their members. Because it doesn’t change the fact that they still receive 50-30 percent from files they don’t create and don’t own. No matter the amount of money you’ve received from this so called, “opportunity”, how can you be satisfied with facts that keep getting ignored without critical observation?
Since I am to take into consideration the fact that these marketplaces perpetuate the emergence of “sloth”, ( laziness and unoriginality ), these marketplaces also cause companies who seek out original web solutions to be cheated. Companies seek out web designers who are expected to develop original ideas for their company. However, buyers of the files sold here spend less than $50.00 and charge thousands to those companies for providing a product that was already pre made by someone else. It’s lazy business, thus resulting in sloth and greed. It is also apparent with obviousness that those businesses get cheated out of more than just money, but they also get cheated out of originality. Thus, I have acknowledged that envato is a source that perpetuates the idea of opportunity, by claim, but not without it being at the expense of honorable business. And if your company doesn’t promise to uphold its honor, then what customers you have may very well then be despicable by relation. I’m talking about those who buy for cheap and charge companies an undeserved amount in payment for products they don’t create themselves. Despicable. And I shall mention that these marketplaces provide templates in a way that ultimately result in over distribution, also known as, “over saturation”. But that is directly related to the provisional ease of outsourcing from envato to buyers, who in turn sell the templates to companies that eventually get cheated by them.
These are some of the true reasons I have no reason to stay much longer. I can’t continue to believe in a company that allows dishonorable business to take place.
Man, you are about 1-2 years late on this topic At first I didn’t like it, too but now I don’t sell much anyway so nevermind…
And so I’m expected to just give up and let them think they are the only ones who can get their way? In that case it seems like envato is governing this business with hardly any regard to those who partake in its affairs. And the the constancy of their absence of consideration, it leads me to believe envato expects its members to give up on their own interests. Which would then allow me to understand that they welcome the conformity with haughty attitudes. I hardly doubt any of these assertions are far from the truth.
A product that fits the needs of those who have uses for digital and physical drawings. I looked into it, but I found I’m not qualified.
That is not at all my state of mind. Whether it gets worse or better, I can only separate myself from envato in the near future. My current state of mind is to observe and respond. Anticipation is part of that. And I don’t think it can’t get worse than this, and I don’t have regard for whether it will get better at this point. My concern is to be certain with what options I have to work with. And so far, envato is not providing well enough the options I need. Separate ways we will go.
I am not getting you. You haven’t started 4 years ago. You started submitting files here on 13th of september 2010. So technically you should count from that date only. Its not even 1year yet and you already earned 16000 bucks. I mean you earned $16000 within 1 year which is not at all a bad figure. Don’t get frustrated.
I have statements going all the way back to September 2008 with my current account as member, ‘Aw_Shucks’. Go ahead and read my profile page. It will say Member since August 2008. I started earning and uploading files in September 2008 under this account. The reason it only shows that I have files dating back to September 13th, 2010 is because all of the files I uploaded previous to that date I deleted due to less than acceptable quality. I had an account back in 2007 with which I earned about $5,000 but gave up about 10,000$ to envato. But that was back before they changed the rates, and I didn’t include those earnings in my postings about this. So, in America… 4 years only earning $15,700 is rather pathetic. Mostly my fault due to the fact that my skills aren’t good enough to draw in a large number of customers.
@WickedPixel : I suppose that’s what I’m doing now. It’s too late to plan for the past at this point. So, yeah you’re right about planning better. Maybe I’m the only one who sees things the way I do then. I’m wasting my time here…
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I received payouts for nearly all of the last 47 months I was a member here. And unlike most businesses, I only received payouts once a month. I have not had many options in my life due to misfortune, so I couldn’t always find a job I could make a living off of. I was so excited to have found envato back in 2007. I was even more excited to learn the capabilities of web design. So I sought out the promise it proposed and I tried to make a living off of it. However excited I was for the opportunity, the test of patience and tolerance to the lacking freedom to receive payments more than 1 time a month was, and continues to be, taxing and stressful. Also, the fact that most billers require payment on the 1st is almost always impossible due to the fact that envato waits 15 days after the 1st of the month to send payouts. Then I have to wait 2-4 days for the payment to be transferred to my bank account. I can’t remember how many times my household received late fees for paying bills late. It seems to me that envat is still only a personal/family business. They only seem to cover their own asses, especially with legal affairs. They capitalize on OTHER peoples products, only providing a “template – like” architecture to host those products. Even ebay does the same thing, but I highly doubt ebay charge 50-30 percent for what their sellers make from sales. envato is making an unnecessary amount of money from products that are not theirs. To me, it makes less and less sense to stick with it the more I think about it. I’m ashamed to tell my family members what I’ve earned over the last 4 years, because every time I have they’ve looked at me with disappointment and have wondered every time why I would waste my time with a company that takes half my earnings for themselves. Yes, it’s shameful, and they tell me every time. I’ve been here 4 years trying to earn a living, ( having no other outlet due to misfortune ), and I only earned 15,000$ out of $32,000+ 4 years!! I still have to pay taxes on my share, which runs an expensive cost on my end. And they have taken more than half of my total sales. For what? No thanks to me right? And all I’m asking is that they implement a system that allows me, and others, to withdraw their earnings more than 1 time a month. But it’s seriously too complicated for them to even consider it. That’s only part of the story though. The rest is for another chapter.
19 More Days !!! YAYYY !!!
I’m so excited. In 1 day I’ll get a notice that will announce to me something I already know. It will state, “We have received your request for withdrawl and will be processing your payment on the 15th.”
All I have to do then is hope the excitement and anticipation of that payout will not run dry after only 2 days, like it has for the past 47 months in a row. Still though. Right now I’m super excited and I’m pumped up for the 19 day wait until the payment has completed being processed through the course of transferring from here, to paypal, to my bank account. Only 19 days!! And that’s only 19 days in addition to the super awesome, exciting time I had during the 15 days waiting to be told to wait another 19 days. This is just friggen awesome. YAYYY !!! Thanks for giving me something to look forward to. 19 days of intense waiting and anticipation, tests of patience, tolerance, eventually leading to stress. This is what I have to look forward to… yet again, just like the past 47 months in a row. YES !!! SWEET !!! Thank you envato!! You guys kick ass and dead horses. or something like that. ( it IS good to kick dead horses, right? )
Something usually without lyrics about selfish desires. The kind of music that isn’t composed on the premise that people will be moved and manipulated. But rather music that is composed with true genius with regard and consideration for the representation of the natural state of emotion while it expresses a relationship between things, instead a song that is composed out of the expectation that emotion would be evoked, especially without meaningfulness. Such music is very hard to find in modern times. But I settle for some things.