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AlumoAudio says

Content id is owned by Youtube/Google https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797370?hl=en

Actually no. ContentID was developed and launched by AudioMicro Inc. The technology they developed is presumably licensed out to YouTube and other digital fingerprinting agencies. In fact, try visiting contentID.com and look what happens ;)

where did you see that Audiomicro own Adrev ?

Potentially contravening forum rules by posting the following image, but in the interest of setting the record straight so everyone is on the same page, here’s a grab from AudioMicro Inc’s website:

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AlumoAudio says

It must be the interest of youtube to get all the quality and license cleared content to sell the advertising aren’t they.

I just think that Google/YT want to minimise any opportunities that their advertising can be removed. And this would include linking off to promote RF sites. They absolutely thrive on unlicensed music being uploaded to YouTube.

Users can remove that advertising, whether they’re monetizing their videos or not, with a license certificate. Imagine videos with massive views did this. Google/YT surely lose out.

As testament to this, Google/YT have now even rolled out their own (free!) music library in an attempt to undercut the RF libraries. Luckily right now the music on it is bloody awful, but that could always change!

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AlumoAudio says


Glad to have helped.

Matt,

Did I understand you correctly in stating that AdRev represents the largest percentage of your overall income as an artist?

Paul

As it stands, yes it does. This is simply because my music landed on a plethora of very popular videos with monstrous view counts. And all ‘lifted’ from another source or video I must add.

But earnings fluctuate wildly, for a whole host of reasons. The main reason is that once-popular videos, become less popular over time. As their ‘watch time’ drops, YouTube will lower their ranking in search, prioritising newer or more relevant videos. Also, some videos may be taken down by the uploader or even removed by a third party, as they contained unauthorised music by another composer or copyright owner!

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AlumoAudio says

Hi Kirk,

This was something I came across when I first started my channel, and found it quite curious why they weren’t allowing us to add our own merch links. The way I see it is that YouTube would’ve decided to leave certain sites, such as RF marketplaces off of their approved merch list, simply because it’s a business model that potentially conflicts with their very own business model.

You have to remember that YouTube (which of course owned by Google) rely purely on advertising revenue. When licensed music is used on YouTube, the user has the power and opportunity to remove that very advertising that supports YT/Google in the first place. It’s a conflict of interest.

The companies outlined in their list of approved retailers wouldn’t necessarily have any real impact on taking away from Google’s business. This is why, unfortunately, we have to make do with adding manual links into our descriptions. However, it’s worth adding an annotation at some point during the video to remind the viewer to check the video description for full licensing details. That’s what’s been working for me anyway!

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AlumoAudio says

Matt thankyou so very much for bringing AdRev to my attention months ago. I have synched my Soundcloud account to AdRev since I am sure revenue is to be earnt. I have had limited success so far with earnings yet I anticipate that this will indeed grow. The proliferation of unlicensed usage of music for third party gain needs to be addressed and I for one am a staunch convert to fingerprint technology. I am not affiliated to a PRO but I am coming around to the idea since sales pick up month after month and the size of traffic I have on a daily basis and growing views on Soundcloud signify that it is maybe time to “recoup” for unlicensed usage of my music.
Once again thank you for bringing clarity to fingerprinting – AdRev. :)

No probs at all Graham! Glad to have helped.

As I’ve mentioned before, the main idea has always been to protect and monitor our music out in the wild. The earnings aspect of it should ideally be seen as a secondary benefit.

However, it always stands the chance that an unlicensed instance of our music ends up on a video, or videos with many millions of views or even those that go viral. We’ve seen them brought to our attention numerous times before, and we’ll no doubt see them again. Getting our music tracked this way gives us that peace of mind, and the opportunity to take action. Something that we couldn’t even consider doing previously.

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AlumoAudio says

Thanks Sascha! That’s really kind of you dude and happy to see my efforts are being reciprocated!

I’m certainly not out on a brownie points mission with this, as admittedly I’ve always felt I was being overly ‘pro AdRev’ at times. But being an early adopter of this technology, I’ve always felt an obligation to pass my findings and methods on to my fellow friends and composers. Most of us here are all in the same boat (regardless of our sales statuses) and we all need as much information along with protection on our assets that we can get. The AdRev system is probably the closest thing we’ve got to this right now.

@Pavel: Ok, I know I’m not Envato staff so therefore I probably won’t satisfy your enquiry, but I have indeed already spoken to the folks at Envato regarding my involvement with AdRev, and despite them not having an official stance and currently no explicit rulings on the matter as of yet, they’ve been very understanding and supportive of the idea.

Support have already updated their knowledgebase with a procedure to clear any claims here and are now fully aware of the drill, should they receive any enquires.

Regarding making customers aware of the possibility of having to show their License Certificates, again this is something I’d like to see RF libraries in general adopting, and making it common knowledge amongst buyers. YouTube is rapidly changing it’s format and logistics and the prerequisite for users to show licenses to have videos monetized is now becoming the norm.

We’ve still got some way to go with this before it’s all smooth sailing however. Libraries need to be very aware of these changes (not so much AJ, but many others), and work on their wording/marketing and dropping the pretence that using RF music means an automatic exclusion from copyright scrutiny, because it simply isn’t true.

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AlumoAudio says

Audiomicro? It’s just a typo or AdRev is working with Audiomicro?

Haha not a typo, AdRev and ContentID is owned by AudioMicro Inc.

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AlumoAudio says

By the way, if I have sold one of my track to someone without using AudioJungle(Yes, I can do that, I am unexclusive author) and later this buyer have received AdRev claim, what should he do? I think that I must make my own written license which I send to buyer after he pays for my track? Maybe someone have some template of this kind of license?

You just send a quick email to support@audiomicro dot com with a link to the video and ask them to remove the claim. It’s usually done within a few hours.

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AlumoAudio says

After that annoyed tweet from buyer I wanter to delete all tracks from there(I ve made only 4 cents in 4 months – its nothing) , I wasn’t able to do that. So be careful with AdRev.

Now imagine if you had unauthorised/ripped music end up on a bunch of videos with over 4 million views each. AdRev would be your best friend, believe me! ;)

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AlumoAudio says

Alumno, can you let us know if there is money to be made with ADREV?

Yep. Most of my earnings are from AdRev.

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