If your country supports Master Card branded credit/debit cards that means Payoneer is supported in your country. Because to use Payoneer you need nothing but a Pardoner’s master card. No bank account is needed, the money from ThemeForest will be loaded in your card and you just go to any ATM booth and withdraw your money. That’s all. If master card is not supported in your country, there is also an alternate option to use Payoneer’s LBT service. To use LBT service you definitely need a bank account (who supports SWIFT). Use LBT or Card system whichever suits you the best.
greenline saidYep I agree with you… But that doesn’t mean you can’t extend the functionality of Joomla… Joomla has also lots of modules, components and plugins to extend it’s functionality… But to be honest Joomla lacks documentation. WP has a very well known codex library where all the functions, classes, hooks, API are listed in a very beautiful way with examples… It is very easy to use and it looks almost like php.net documentation site. But Joomla’s code library is very poor. Not all the functions are documented like WP codex library.. The documentation of Joomla is very hard to follow, Even any PHP ninja will say it is very difficult and nightmare to learn Joomla code.. But if you have only some basic knowledge of PHP you will never fall in difficulties to follow WP codex… WP really rocks… I am very sad for Joomla because I am a Joomla developer.
People prefer WordPress because it’s easier, because it’s simple and because you can extend easily its functionality with plugins. Basically with WordPress you can do anything you want with a well chosen theme and a couple of good plugins.
Do I really need to make my mind to think Joomla is a dead CMS by now? Any valuable suggestion would be very much appreciated. Thank you.
Dear dmsumon, I also have the same question with you and most of times I answer it myself to yes it’s a bit ‘half’ dead. Even though I’ve been a member here in TF for 5 years now but I relatively new as an author here ( my 1st item was approved on nov last year.) though I’ve learned Joomla since it’s in 1.0.x and being a full freelancer in a joomlasphere, work as a support team in one of template club (which is dying now) since then and I have to decide to quit from there and push my self to be a ‘template crafter’ here. And thank God my sales from 3 items here is good enough to feeds my family. I wish I could start as an author long before. So yes I’m optimistic at this point.
But at the same time I worried too with this relatively low sales fact in Joomla category here. 2 of my items have WP version released too by top authors and they sales are 10+ times higher.
Is it because no flexible-enough-template-builder or wp-theme-options-alike for Joomla? cause all template frameworks available only support Bootstrap on it and personally it’s so hard to use one of it as none of my template conversion is bootstrap-based. OR is it because TF is not advertising this category at it’s maximum like it does for WP themes?so lastly what i can say is good luck to all of us here. wish there’d be a better-more-flexible-template framework available out there that we can use so it’ll keeps the existing Joomla users and attract more new potential users.
yes you are absolutely right. Thanks for understanding the issue in depth.
egemenerd saidI agree with you
mcc_ saidWhat are you talking about? I’m sure you are an “uber super” developer but we are not talking about who is a “real” developer here. Of course all Wordpress developers can make Joomla templates as well. The problem is time… Time is money and we are here for earning money right? So we should make some choices and we are talking about these choices…
Joomla! developer, WordPress developer that’s so lame, what is a CMS, some functions/methods that mostly query a database like a bitch that you must generate static cache files, not forget some admin forms. You should be able to check the API of any CMS and code for it or else don’t call yourself a “developer”.
Hi I know it will take a long time to learn to design/develop good quality themes here on theme forest. It might not be much to you guys but I learnt to hand code html and css websites and that was frustrating at times but I didn’t give up and now it comes easy to me,The reason I wanted to make sure that I had the right framework etc. is because I am about to build a massive website and I thought if I am spending months designing/developing it would be good to learn how to develop it in WordPress then I would be able to use my new skill set to build TF Themes once my project was completed or I had enough skill to attempt it.
I have just found it so difficult to settle on a framework. Many themes call themselves Frameworks, other frameworks cannot be used on TH, others can but only using child themes. Redux and others call themselves a framework, not an options framework. Some frameworks make it easier some are bare boned and need a lot of coding.It is just so confusing when I am just about to settle on something I find out it wont be the best option.
To be honest I was thinking to start with runway, or shoestrap, use live composer and see how it goes.
Do you think this would be a good setup? Or have I got it wrong again and runway isn’t a frameworkThanks really itching to start
Please don’t become confused, Redux is not a theme framework but a framework to buid options for your themes. Gantry, Warp, Runway all are great frameworks. You can pick whichever you want. Also remember that in this world there is no framework which has only pros but no cons. all of them has their pros and cons. As Runway is developed by one of the well known authors of TF, then yes if you start with this you have never to be worry about to make it TF standards friendly. I have also some more tips for you
1. Theme unit test: http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Unit_Test
2. Test all standard widgets in all widget areas: http://wordpress.org/plugins/monster-widget/3. Check your theme with an automated theme checker: http://wordpress.org/plugins/theme-check/ http://wordpress.org/plugins/themeforest-check/
4. Add all non-theme functionality to plugins, and include the plugins with TGM Plugin Class:
5. Test, test, test!
heheheh…. It has been discussed a lot before. It is not a bug
Thank you for taking the time out and writing a very nice reply it is very much appreciated.
I have been looking for ages and every time I think right Im going to start, something else comes up and stops me (even though it is a good thing) from getting on.
Im even more stuck now as I was before lol
All I need is a framework to let me get on with layout and design, developing is not my strong point and the frameworks listed would have helped me get up and running quicker.
It know looks like I need to look again. I’m going to have to start my search again Do you have a couple of recommendations to help me out I have seen Runway, Vafpress and Redux framework.Thanks
Dear friend, If you really want to be a serious WP developer and want to develop WP themes for TF then please remember that developing WP themes for TF is very challenging at the beginning. It takes time to learn all standards of WP that TF supports. Also there are lots of things you can’t and you can…
Yes you can use those two amazing frameworks Gantry and Warp. Many authors of TF use Gantry and Warp. So I can ensure you that you are safe if you have decided to use any of them. Also have a look on Redux , redux is not a theme framework but a options framework, many top elite authors of TF use redux to build options for their themes. Unfortunately I can’t give you links of those authors or items who uses Gantry, WARP and Redux because of Envato’s forum rules.
But please remember that slow and steady wins the race. Make a plan… Don’t think that at the beginning you will develop a WP theme within 1/2 months… At the beginning you have to learn a lot of things …
1) Learn PHP , don’t have to be a PHP ninja but good basics. like if else statement, loop, array etc
2 ) Learn PHP OOP basics (It really helps)
3 ) When you have all basic knowledge of PHP and OOP Then learn some good books to build WP themes. On amazon you will find many. If you need then I can mention the titles of some good books
4) Always go to your best friend when you are on the third section I mentioned above. Who is your best friend to be a top notch WP developer? http://codex.wordpress.org/ is your best friend….
5) Buy some WP themes from TF and open their functions.php files, plugin files to learn how the author has written the codes you have learn on the above steps…
6) Finally this is the time to make your hands dirty with some frameworks to develop a WP theme for TF. Use Gantry or WARP with Redux or even you can built your own framework.
You see to make yourself ready to be a WP developer of TF is a lot of work to do… and it can’t be achieved in the blink of an eye.. It takes time lot of time …. at least 5/6 months or more …
HellasDesign saidDear friend, yep I know it may happen that customers are switching from one CMS to another, most probably to WP because they know that WP has many theme options to choose. I also know that when someone wants more customers then he has to release items for more CMS (like WordPress, Drupal etc) But I am not firing just in the air I am talking with references , see on the top author egemenerd’s comment , also check that one of his WP item has made 285 sells so far whereas it’s Joomla! version made only 29 sells! Don’t you think this gives a clear idea what I am saying about?
I also don’t agree with HellasDesign.. He said “Joomla template can have a lot of sales only when it is very unique and the buyers can’t find a similar item on other CMS (WordPress, Drupal etc).” I don’t agree with this because a Joomla user will always search for a theme of Joomla suitable for his project. According to his saying if he doesn’t find it for Joomla then he will search an suitable item in WP category or vice versa… What a ridiculous thought? A user who is very familiar with WP why will he switch to Joomla CMS? or any person who is familiar with Joomla why will he switch to WP? Because switching from one CMS to other CMS is not a very easy matter.. It is a matter of learning a full new CMS, isn’t it? But yes if there is no other way then it may happen that someone is switching from one CMS to another. But personally I believe that every CMS has all types of design ready for any types of projects.
I have a few customers who changed CMS because they like one of my items. So, I don’t think that this is an issue. As for Joomla users… don’t forget that there are a lot of companies/teams/developers (like the developers of T3 Framework, Gavern Framework and Warp Framework – I don’t want to post links) that create Joomla templates for a lot of years and they already have a lot of customers!
When a Joomla user wants a new template, he/she always check these websites first. As you can see, Joomla section doesn’t have as many items as other sections.
I really don’t know what to tell you. If I were you I would release items for more than one CMS. You have nothing to lose. For example, you can release a Joomla template on February and the same item for WordPress on March. It won’t take more than a month (or two) to release it on other CMS.I really like Joomla and I use it for more than 6 years. But when you want more customers then you have to release items for more CMS (like WordPress, Drupal etc)
We all know about RocketTheme, Gavick and YooTheme. They all are great places for Joomla templates but you are saying that because of these great Joomla companies existence people don’t buy templates from TF! It is ridiculous! Then I want to remind you that though TF is the most reputed place to buy WP themes but there are 100 more theme companies for WP. They are not countable like Joomla theme companies they are uncountable… They are also great… I also want to remind you that though the three companies mentioned above are always known for Joomla but from last year all of them started to develop for WP too because of WP’s sky touching popularity and Joomla market’s sell rate crash
I made Joomla versions of some of my WP themes and I think this was a mistake. Selling rate is really low and if I worked on WP themes instead of these Joomla templates, I’m sure that I would be richer now
Though I am not happy and it is very hard for me to bear but 100% agreed with you